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How does this apply to "software engineers"? Do they have to call themselves something else in the state? As far as I know there is no national accreditation b

How does this apply to "software engineers"? Do they have to call themselves something else in the state? As far as I know there is no national accreditation body for the title in the US.

criley2 9y ago
https://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe https://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe
miiiiiike 9y ago
I went through an ABET accredited software engineering program, they pointed us to the NSPE. I'm not a PE but I still call myself a software engineer on everything except government forms. As far as the government's concerned I'm a programmer.
- LeifCarrotson 9y ago
  I went through an ABET accredited electrical engineering program, and they said that those of us who didn't want to work in government shouldn't bother with it.
  - miiiiiike 9y ago
    Yeah, a lot of our courses were designed with government work in mind. CMMI.. Ooph.
- sdflkd 9y ago
  > As far as the government's concerned I'm a programmer. I don't think so. It's been a bit since I read up on Visa stuff (and I imagine it doesn't matter to you as an American citizen) but there are distinctions between programmer / software developer / etc.
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- jnbiche 9y ago
  The NCEES absolutely offers a PE exam in the US for software engineers, for about 5 years now [1]. Most states offer PE licenses now in software engineering. 1. (note the "software" in the list of exams offered) http://ncees.org/engineering/pe/ http://ncees.org/engineering/pe/
  - cbhl 9y ago
    Is California one of those states?
    - jnbiche 9y ago
      I don't know, but I remember that a slide from the NCEES from 2013 states that 30 states were already offering it, and 10 more scheduled to go online in 2014. So perhaps all 50 are offering it now? You'd have to call/check out the CA Board of Engineering to know for sure, unless someone here can confirm.
  - miiiiiike 9y ago
    Thanks! I went through ~8 years ago when there weren't any SE focused licenses. Hadn't heard that anything had changed. Will take a run at this if it isn't too expensive.
vvanders 9y ago
My layman's understanding is that in US you're correct, that there isn't an accreditation for SEs. Heck, you can have a job title of Software Engineer without even having graduated college.
- kobeya 9y ago
  TFA is about a case in the U.S.
- coupdejarnac 9y ago
  Not true, there is now a software engineering professional engineering exam. However, you can pass any of the PE exams and call yourself an engineer. I took the computer engineering exam, as the software exam didn't yet exist.

How does this apply to "software engineers"? Do they have to call themselves something else in the state? As far as I know there is no national accreditation body for the title in the US.

criley2 9y ago

https://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe https://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe

miiiiiike 9y ago

I went through an ABET accredited software engineering program, they pointed us to the NSPE. I'm not a PE but I still call myself a software engineer on everything except government forms. As far as the government's concerned I'm a programmer.

LeifCarrotson 9y ago
I went through an ABET accredited electrical engineering program, and they said that those of us who didn't want to work in government shouldn't bother with it.
- miiiiiike 9y ago
  Yeah, a lot of our courses were designed with government work in mind. CMMI.. Ooph.
sdflkd 9y ago
> As far as the government's concerned I'm a programmer. I don't think so. It's been a bit since I read up on Visa stuff (and I imagine it doesn't matter to you as an American citizen) but there are distinctions between programmer / software developer / etc.
- deleted 9y ago
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jnbiche 9y ago
The NCEES absolutely offers a PE exam in the US for software engineers, for about 5 years now [1]. Most states offer PE licenses now in software engineering. 1. (note the "software" in the list of exams offered) http://ncees.org/engineering/pe/ http://ncees.org/engineering/pe/
- cbhl 9y ago
  Is California one of those states?
  - jnbiche 9y ago
    I don't know, but I remember that a slide from the NCEES from 2013 states that 30 states were already offering it, and 10 more scheduled to go online in 2014. So perhaps all 50 are offering it now? You'd have to call/check out the CA Board of Engineering to know for sure, unless someone here can confirm.
- miiiiiike 9y ago
  Thanks! I went through ~8 years ago when there weren't any SE focused licenses. Hadn't heard that anything had changed. Will take a run at this if it isn't too expensive.

vvanders 9y ago

My layman's understanding is that in US you're correct, that there isn't an accreditation for SEs. Heck, you can have a job title of Software Engineer without even having graduated college.

kobeya 9y ago
TFA is about a case in the U.S.
coupdejarnac 9y ago
Not true, there is now a software engineering professional engineering exam. However, you can pass any of the PE exams and call yourself an engineer. I took the computer engineering exam, as the software exam didn't yet exist.