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There are a host of obvious reasons why even a "simple" human will beat an L4 car hands-down: * Lack of software bugs due to careless programming. * Millions

There are a host of obvious reasons why even a "simple" human will beat an L4 car hands-down: * Lack of software bugs due to careless programming. * Millions of years of brain evolution allows adapting to unforeseen circumstances. * Vastly decreased likelihood of being tricked by vandals exploiting flaws in recognition algorithms. * Inability to be hacked en masse and driven into each other/houses/pedestrians. * Much harder to back-door. * Can be judged in court if they swerve to avoid a pigeon and hit a crowd of pedestrians. I could go on, but this should drive the point home pretty clearly, IMHO.

smlacy 9y ago
You seem to be under some delusion that a vehicle purchased in the year 2017 doesn't have any software in it, and isn't fully electronically actuated (steering, brakes, throttle) They sell these features as "parking assist" or "smart cruise control" or similar, but don't kid yourself into thinking that there's not a very sophisticated software system that could, if hacked, take over control. Has this ever happened? Have there been catastrophic bugs documented? More advanced vehicles (i.e. Tesla) have enough hardware to be be nearly fully autonomous today. (i.e. they could rend control from a driver and continue to pilot the vehicle to an alternate destination if hacked)
chc 9y ago
> Lack of software bugs due to careless programming This is very much not true of humans. > Vastly decreased likelihood of being tricked by vandals exploiting flaws in recognition algorithms This is not particularly true of humans. The human eye is very easily tricked. It's true that there are things that would not fool us and would fool a computer, but the inverse is also true.
catshirt 9y ago
the only relevant items here are arguments again mission critical software at large, not self-driving cars.
ceejayoz 9y ago
Google "optical illusions" for plenty of human software bugs. What in the last few millions of years caused humans to evolve to steer metal objects at 60mph?

smlacy 9y ago

You seem to be under some delusion that a vehicle purchased in the year 2017 doesn't have any software in it, and isn't fully electronically actuated (steering, brakes, throttle) They sell these features as "parking assist" or "smart cruise control" or similar, but don't kid yourself into thinking that there's not a very sophisticated software system that could, if hacked, take over control. Has this ever happened? Have there been catastrophic bugs documented? More advanced vehicles (i.e. Tesla) have enough hardware to be be nearly fully autonomous today. (i.e. they could rend control from a driver and continue to pilot the vehicle to an alternate destination if hacked)

chc 9y ago

> Lack of software bugs due to careless programming This is very much not true of humans. > Vastly decreased likelihood of being tricked by vandals exploiting flaws in recognition algorithms This is not particularly true of humans. The human eye is very easily tricked. It's true that there are things that would not fool us and would fool a computer, but the inverse is also true.

catshirt 9y ago

the only relevant items here are arguments again mission critical software at large, not self-driving cars.

ceejayoz 9y ago

Google "optical illusions" for plenty of human software bugs. What in the last few millions of years caused humans to evolve to steer metal objects at 60mph?