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Look up usufruct and Jefferson's views on the topic. He believed that when a person dies their property should become community owned. He didn't think the nex

Look up usufruct and Jefferson's views on the topic. He believed that when a person dies their property should become community owned. He didn't think the next generation ought to be bound by the previous generation's wishes. Jefferson qualifies as American.

hvs 9y ago
How is something "community owned"? Is it owned by the state? So eventually everything is owned by the state?
- yequalsx 9y ago
  I'll answer by giving some examples. National Parks in the U.S. are owned by the federal government. State parks by the state government. County parks by the county government. City parks by the city. Each level of government is able to sell land from its parks to individuals or corporations. There are other examples of something being government owned. I'm assuming you are aware of all this but I've been unable to deduce either your real question or your point. Can you elaborate?
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  - hvs 9y ago
    The OP said "when a person dies their property should become community owned" so your house would become the property of the state?
- HarryHirsch 9y ago
  In Germany, hunting rights are community-owned in a way. The landowners in a municipality all form the Jagdgenossenschaft, it's a civic corporation (Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts). An individual would lease hunting rights from it, and an individual landowner can't probibit hunting on his lands if the Genossenschaft things otherwise.
- arethuza 9y ago
  Community ownership is a big thing here in Scotland - where arguably a lot of land was owned collectively before being taken into private ownership (often by rather dubious means) since the 18th century or so: https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/david-cameron/scotlands-community-land-ownership-story https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/david-cameron/scotl...
- Frondo 9y ago
  State-owned, no. Public, yes. That usually means state-managed. Think public parks, think public libraries. The feds might manage the place where you go hiking in the woods, the county might run your library. Everything isn't eventually owned by the state, because they periodically sell off bits of public land, and gain possession of others.
enraged_camel 9y ago
What if he or she passed on their property before they died, as gifts?
- undersuit 9y ago
  We already have rules in the U.S. for taxation of gifts.
dragonwriter 9y ago
> Look up usufruct and Jefferson's views on the topic. He believed that when a person dies their property should become community owned. That's an oversimplification; he thought that there was no right to inheritance, and that any inheritance allowed ought to be viewed as a privilege granted at the discretion of the public (by way of their elected government), with whatever conditions and limitations s the public chose to impose. It wasn't that the property should become community owned as that the deceased owner had no rights to direct it's disposition after their death. (He had fairly similar views on laws, including Constitutions: that, as the dead had no right to rule over the living, laws, however fundamental, ought to expire each generation unless positive action was taken to renew them, so that—within the limits of practicality—the living were governed by rules they participated in forming, not by the hand of the dead.

hvs 9y ago

How is something "community owned"? Is it owned by the state? So eventually everything is owned by the state?

yequalsx 9y ago
I'll answer by giving some examples. National Parks in the U.S. are owned by the federal government. State parks by the state government. County parks by the county government. City parks by the city. Each level of government is able to sell land from its parks to individuals or corporations. There are other examples of something being government owned. I'm assuming you are aware of all this but I've been unable to deduce either your real question or your point. Can you elaborate?
- deleted 9y ago
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- hvs 9y ago
  The OP said "when a person dies their property should become community owned" so your house would become the property of the state?
HarryHirsch 9y ago
In Germany, hunting rights are community-owned in a way. The landowners in a municipality all form the Jagdgenossenschaft, it's a civic corporation (Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts). An individual would lease hunting rights from it, and an individual landowner can't probibit hunting on his lands if the Genossenschaft things otherwise.
arethuza 9y ago
Community ownership is a big thing here in Scotland - where arguably a lot of land was owned collectively before being taken into private ownership (often by rather dubious means) since the 18th century or so: https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/david-cameron/scotlands-community-land-ownership-story https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/david-cameron/scotl...
Frondo 9y ago
State-owned, no. Public, yes. That usually means state-managed. Think public parks, think public libraries. The feds might manage the place where you go hiking in the woods, the county might run your library. Everything isn't eventually owned by the state, because they periodically sell off bits of public land, and gain possession of others.

enraged_camel 9y ago

What if he or she passed on their property before they died, as gifts?

undersuit 9y ago
We already have rules in the U.S. for taxation of gifts.

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Look up usufruct and Jefferson's views on the topic. He believed that when a person dies their property should become community owned. That's an oversimplification; he thought that there was no right to inheritance, and that any inheritance allowed ought to be viewed as a privilege granted at the discretion of the public (by way of their elected government), with whatever conditions and limitations s the public chose to impose. It wasn't that the property should become community owned as that the deceased owner had no rights to direct it's disposition after their death. (He had fairly similar views on laws, including Constitutions: that, as the dead had no right to rule over the living, laws, however fundamental, ought to expire each generation unless positive action was taken to renew them, so that—within the limits of practicality—the living were governed by rules they participated in forming, not by the hand of the dead.