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The cost of using different sites on mobile networks around the world
- solox3 9y agoI just got a bar graph full of $0.00 (http://imgur.com/uciLhOG http://imgur.com/uciLhOG). Maybe there's a bug in measuring images and fonts referenced by CSS? More decimal places are a good idea.
- laurent123456 9y agoIt seems to work fine at the moment: https://i.imgur.com/WSCMaxC.png https://i.imgur.com/WSCMaxC.png
- 50CNT 9y agoLooks like your site just costs less than a cent everywhere. Rejoice!
- bArray 9y agoI got the same result, but my site weighs 0.01MB apparently (it's actually lower at 6kB according to webpagetest.org). I think small sized sites weigh next to nothing. This is more intended for people with much bigger sites.
- tkadlec 9y agoYeah, it's a rounding thing. I'm guessing your site is so lightweight that the cost ends up being negligible. You should be able to click through from the result page to a fully detailed report from webpagetest.org.
- Pxtl 9y agoO Caaaaaanaaadaaaa, our home and native land.....
- kentt 9y agoWe're number one!
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- bhouston 9y agoI am in Canada and the prices seemed a bit high on this website. Here is the math for my situation: I use Freedom Mobile, an urban focused discount mobile service, formerly known as Wind Mobile: http://www.freedommobile.ca/plans-and-devices/plans http://www.freedommobile.ca/plans-and-devices/plans I get 9GB for $60/month, so that works out to 150MB/$ if I am at full usage. Realistically I am average about 2GB/month so my real costs are 33MB/$. The average website is 2.552MB according to this website. Thus at full usage (9GB/month) my costs are 1.7 cents CAD (1.25 cents USD) per average website (2.5MB). At average usage (2GB/month) I am hitting 7.7 cents CAD (5.6 cents USD) per average website (2.5MB). I may be getting a better than average deal in Canada.
- miguelrochefort 9y ago> I may be getting a better than average deal in Canada. Yes you are. There's nothing like Freedom Mobile where I live (Montreal). I'm paying $60/month for 2GB.
- Aaargh20318 9y ago> I get 9GB for $60/month, so that works out to 150MB/$ if I am at full usage. But that $60 isn't just for the data, is it ? The same plan without data but with voice/text isn't $0.
- bhouston 9y agoI have unlimited text and unlimited calling to Canada and the US and when I am in the US I get 1GB of data, and 2400 calling minutes.
- lorenzhs 9y agoSimilar situation in Germany. With Aldi Talk, you can get 1GB and 300 texts/minutes for 8€. When valuing the text/talk component at 0, that still works out to 2.18 cents USD per 2.5MB, an order of magnitude less than the claimed 20ct. Note that they picked the cheapest plan with at least 500MB, not the one with best value. Furthermore the largest ISP may not be the one with the best plans at the low end of the spectrum. That skews the data enormously.
- Corristowolf 9y agoDid we crash the site?
- pasta 9y agoIn 2013 Amazon (I think) estimated that 1 second delay would cost you 7% of your sales. And while most developers know this there are still developers creating slow and bloated sites. So this site is also nice, but I don't think it will change anything. Unless the loss would be cut from the developers paycheck.
- dageshi 9y agoCut from the designers paycheck... Most of the size in modern sites is due to developers building out the design they've been given.
- ashark 9y agoYeah, it's not developers pushing video header backgrounds, ten analytics packages, and form designs that require 2mb of JS, CSS and images to achieve cross-browser. Designers, marketing/growth-hackers. Clients. Developers aren't blameless but we can only push back so much (usually very little—few trust us on design/ux, even when we're right)
- Phenix88be 9y agoThank you !
- driverdan 9y agoIt depends on the site. Most page weight from the stuff you view on mobile is from unnecessary JS libs and ads.
- Cerlinea 9y agoThe problem with this data is that it's based on averages etc over billions of customers. It doesn't hold any direct meaning. IE; If you increased the speed of your site by 1 second, it doesn't mean you would increase sales by 7%.
- JustSomeNobody 9y ago> If you increased the speed of your site by 1 second, it doesn't mean you would increase sales by 7%. No, but at least it wouldn't decrease... Supposedly. I have not looked into Amazon numbers.
- DCRichards 9y agoWe crashed it... apparently the performance cost is the greatest of all...
- rcarmo 9y agoPretty cool. Also nice to see that http://taoofmac.com http://taoofmac.com is confirmed to weigh in at only 0.33MB - I do progressive image loads and strip everything I can precisely to cater to mobile users... https://whatdoesmysitecost.com/test/170425_QK_0642ee2ef13f4993060467d0ad4fe740#usdCost https://whatdoesmysitecost.com/test/170425_QK_0642ee2ef13f49...
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- wheelerwj 9y agoI've been traveling more so i've been studying data and usage as it applies to my personal usage. The result: I've had to completely turn off cellular data for web browsing. I can use mobile apps fine; chess.com, slack, telegram, email, etc. Streaming even pandora is out, but luckily they have an offline mode that allows you to download your station when you're on wifi and then play back whenever. But I can't browse the internet at all. I'd be willing to spend up to $50 a month for a limited package, but at most that seems to get me is 1-2GB when I'm in Canada unless I want to sign another long term contract. Every page i download, every news article, easily 2-3MB, and when your total data allotment is 500MB, you just can't browse the internet. Even hacker news, a popular post ends up being 1MB worth of comments.
- icebraining 9y agoEven hacker news, a popular post ends up being 1MB worth of comments. That's the unpacked size, the transfer size (gzipped) is never over 100KB, even for posts with 1000+ comments.
- TsomArp 9y agoHave you tried Opera? They have a way to reduce the size apparently.
- jbody 9y agoI've been playing with using safari content blockers to not load images/other resources when on data. See https://github.com/jacklightbody/Data-Diet https://github.com/jacklightbody/Data-Diet I'm curious if anyones found any better alternatives though, as it's definitely not an ideal situation
- nefariousoctopi 9y agoTurning off JavaScript usually works well and does not break as much mobile sites as it does with desktop versions. The difference for me is 70-80% less data, but I usually browse mainly text content with relatively small amount of images.
- taesis 9y agoYou might consider using Opera Mini [1] and turning off photos -- worked fine on a 100mb plan. [1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.native https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini...
- mamon 9y agoI'm happy to see that Poland has the cheapest mobile internet :)
- rodionos 9y agoPoland, Russia - these are not exactly cheap countries. What makes data services so inexpensive in those locales? I know that in Russia the telcos were able to grab the spectrum at almost zero cost. Bad for the state budget, great for telco market cap, but looks like it's also good for consumers.
- mamon 9y agoI think that there are few different reasons: - Polish people are tech savvy and get easily excited about new tech, so there's high demand for data services - there is a lot of competition. There are four major vendors, and there's already more than one mobile phone per citizen (and that's including infants). So the only way of acquiring new customers is to make them switch from other telecom. - Poland is pretty small and have relatively high population density, so it's pretty easy to have good coverage. - It is easy to avoid taxes (and even if you pay them, they are pretty low), so telecoms have a lot of spare cash to invest in the infrastructure :)
- rodionos 9y agoMakes sense but the driving factor has to clearly set Poland apart from the likes of Germany or South Korea which also have savvy consumers and rapid adoption. In the U.S. there are multiple competing carries of meaningful scale but the data plans tend to be expensive.
- mnx 9y agoYeah,but in the US you have coverage problems with most of them. And in Poland, basically they all have great coverage. I've used two of the major carriers, didn't have coverage problems even in remote parts of the country. (HSPA+, but even LTE is getting pretty universal)
- DamonHD 9y agoOoooh, hurrah! 10% of normal page weight (at ~260kB)! http://m.earth.org.uk/ http://m.earth.org.uk/ But if it weren't for the single Google ad it would be reduced to more like 1% of normal page weight, which is more like my mental target for pages, ie 10s over dial-up... PS. Yes, http://www.exnet.com/ http://www.exnet.com/ from the days when I was providing dial-up in the UK, is ~20kB.
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- stephen123 9y agoThose page size's are a bit less to what I get in chrome. Must be hard to catch all the dynamic content. Still a cool site.
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- vultour 9y agoWow the prices people pay in here are exorbitant. I have a UK no contract SIM and pay 25 pounds a month, this includes uncapped internet and quite a number of texts + minutes. I pretty much only use it for the internet as it's such good value. The best thing about it is that the uncapped internet works in pretty much any EU country I've been to. This is really surprising from UK as most of the stuff in there is usually more expensive than in the rest of the EU, however I don't think I've ever seen a plan with uncapped internet and free roaming in any other country.
- sametmax 9y agoSame in France with Free Mobile. Free voice and text roadming, data roaming is limited to 3Go though. Cost 20 euros/month.
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- rtkwe 9y ago> Prices were collected from the operator with the largest marketshare in the country, using the least expensive plan with a (minimum) data allowance of 500 MB over (a minimum of) 30 days. The prices are definitely skewed higher because of these constraints. As other have pointed out more expensive plans often have a better currency/MB value than the cheapest plans.
- pmontra 9y agoItaly has a formally uncapped mobile Internet, but past a quota it should slow down to a crawl. I really don't know if it does or what the usual prices are because my data needs are very modest. I'm on a cheap offer from many years ago and I pay 6 Euro per month for 2 GB + some text and voice. I use between 300 to 400 MB of data per month, everything else is on WiFi (some GB) because basically there is WiFi everywhere I go unless I'm outside. Add some 50 Euro at home for fiber, but I need that to work (I just did some docker push/pull) so I'm not sure it compares with your 25 pounds for mobile (do you have fixed Internet?). Furthermore it's a 50% operating cost for my business, but same for the phone.
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- yoz-y 9y agoThis site is useful and informative but I have a problem with their statement in bold. From what I understand, they use the cheapest plan that satisfies two conditions - it provides over 500MB of data and is valid for over 30 days. They present that this is the _best case scenario_. This is false of course, cheap plans have often a shitty value ratio. For example in France you can easily get 50G non-renewable contract for around 20-25 euros, SFR even offers 100G for 20. Maybe these are not the cheapest plans you can get, but they have much better ratio than what this site presents as a best case scenario for France (which is ~$0.1/MB)
- JustSomeNobody 9y agoWhat would be a better[0] way to normalize it and still make sense for most people? [0] for lack of a 'better' word. better being mostly subjective.
- danielamitay 9y agoThe site and data normalization are great. The problem is that applying the phrase "best case scenario" is simply false, and it is just a distraction that was not necessary on the site. Amortizing my entire data usage over my entire cell plan (which includes talk & text), costs me literally $0.001/MB. You should not present $0.24/MB (US|Prepaid) as the "Best case scenario" when someone on a standard AT&T plan pays 240x less.
- tkadlec 9y agoThis is a very fair point, sir. I'll pull the phrase.
- user5994461 9y agoYou get 3-5GB for 20 euros from SFR. What is the magic plan that gives you 50GB for 20 euros?
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- vcdimension 9y agoI'm sceptical of these figures. How can the US rank higher than Botswana and Brazil in PPP adjusted dollars, when it ranks lower in unadjusted dollars and the cost of living is higher in the USA?
- deadbunny 9y agoBecause US telcos are some of the most price gouging in the world?
- blurrywh 9y agoThis site rather tells differences between national mobile data plans than how expensive your site is.
- kalleboo 9y agoJapanese carriers have a very high base rate on all their "smartphone" plans that they justify by forcing you to get an unlimited calls plan. You can get a far better deal on data with the multitude of MVNOs; the majority of which are on the former telco monopoly, NTT docomo, since the telco regulator has more influence on them. You'll get drastically lower priority on the network though (in the tune of 2 MBit/s instead of 20 Mbit/s as soon as the network has any load)
- clvx 9y agoThere's a dilema of browsing with a web app(firefox, opera, chrome) and navigating using a native app when you are in development countries. Using web browsing consumes your data pretty fast and the cap limits are low(~500mb), but it gives you good energy consumption. Using apps to navigate is more efficient with your data consumption; however, battey life drains pretty fast. The latter is due many cheap or mid mobile phones; if you have a high end phone shouldn't be a problem. I used to live in Peru, and worked in mobile geo localization services.
- lmns 9y agoI'm pretty sure native apps with the same functionality consume less energy than web apps. Native apps and their frameworks are highly optimized.
- tmaly 9y agoSo my side project costs about 2 cents in most developed countries and 1 or 0 cents in developing nations. Is that good? I wish there was some comparison to say the major internet sites.
- Gracana 9y agoCan't view the site properly right now (I'm text-only), but is it possible to see how much your ads cost your users? I would looove it if businesses/developers cared about that.
- DamonHD 9y agoSee my comment earlier: for my front page very roughly one AdSense ad is 90% of the entire page weight (well over 200kB of ~250kB).
- SilasX 9y agoWould also be nice to measure the typical battery percentage consumption based on a standard usage pattern.
- axtscz 9y agoI'm happy to see that my server side rendered react site is cheaper in every country other than my own. In most countries less than a cent.
- ss64 9y agoI tried it with SS64.com, the chart shows that $0 is four times bigger in Canada than $0 in Italy (https://ss64.com https://ss64.com weighs 0.02MB)
- tkadlec 9y agoHa! I'll try to add some decimal points for sub $.01 sites.
- jankotek 9y agoOpera...