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People made a number of legitimate points about how some victims of the holocaust and WWII are much less remembered than others. Why do you immediately characte
by lacampbell 10y ago
People made a number of legitimate points about how some victims of the holocaust and WWII are much less remembered than others. Why do you immediately characterise this as anti-Jewish?
that Jews somehow uniquely manipulate government through lobbying, that Jews don't accept any debate about the exact "6 million" number in the dominant narrative
No one said anything like that.
- laurent123456 10y ago> Instead the article doesn't even mention them in passing. There's something implied there. For me, it's not mentioned simply because that's not the topic of the article. But what he seems to imply is that it was purposely omitted from the article - thus conspiracy/manipulation.
- TeMPOraL 10y agoThat's only a conjecture. It's easy to read something into what someone else wrote. I interpreted it only as a complain that a vital piece of information isn't even mentioned, and more as an implication of quality issue than conspiracy.
- lr4444lr 10y agoRead the comment from the person with the Greek relative.
- ashirusnw 10y agoIndeed, the term lobbying was used twice and has bad connotations (as well as being inaccurate).
- lacampbell 10y agoSince when was it anti-$ETHNIC_GROUP to talk about an $ETHNIC_GROUP's lobby? Do you accuse people of being "inaccurate" if they mention the China lobby?
- dang 10y agoPlease stop taking this thread (or any HN thread) further into flamewar hell. We've asked you before not to do this.
- lacampbell 10y agoIn that case, just ban me. I've also asked before. As long as I can still post here, I will occasionally debate with people when they take contentious positions I disagree with (esp when they make accusations). I'm not flaming, and you know it. Nonetheless, if you think I'm a problem, just ban me and the problem will be solved. I don't want to be in a place where politics is totally OK to discuss until it's not for arbitrary reasons I can't guess or predict.
- lacampbell 10y agoYour immediate reaction to a non-jewish person having the temerity to talk about how their community suffered from Nazi forces during WW2 was to label them "anti-jewish". That's messed up. The fact that they mentioned "lobbying" doesn't excuse you.
- redsummer 10y agoThere seems to be a strong undercurrent of anti-gentilism from several commenters on this story. The response from admins has been very strange.
- lacampbell 10y agoI'm not sure I see evidence for anti-gentilism. I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say over-sensitivity, or paranoia. But accusations of anti-semitism are being thrown around far too freely. Discussions of non-jewish victims is not anti-jewish, and it should not be shutdown by trying to shame or accuse people.