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There are quite a lot of people who will tell you there is no such thing as rights. There's only power. This is not a new idea: it's always been around (think '
by Applejinx 10y ago
There are quite a lot of people who will tell you there is no such thing as rights. There's only power. This is not a new idea: it's always been around (think 'Magna Carta' and who knows how many times, back infinitely into the past).
The idea that there is no rights, only power, is as true as we agree it to be.
And that's why this debate is still ongoing. In times where it's a very live and relevant debate, power is ascendant and making the argument that rights are old hat. If it wasn't much of a debate because it was self-evident that there are no rights, we'd be in one of those Dark Ages periods of stultification, waiting for civilization to start up again. If it wasn't much of a debate because there is no power… actually, I'm not sure that's ever happened or ever will happen. It'd be an interesting thought experiment, to ask what that would even look like. Presumably that's a picture of bureacracy, but weaponized, meaning the power is on the law-makers and those who bend their ears.
As expected, that's the first thing claimed by power, whether it makes sense or not. To power, any bureacracy or law is always weaponized and illegitimate.
- mmjaa 10y ago"Rights" are just 'powers' granted to individuals by the groups they compose for the purpose.
- wavefunction 10y agoThere's also the concept of natural and inalienable rights, at least theoretically in the US. In practice many of the 'Constitution lovers' among the politicians and authority figures will happily deny many of these natural rights whenever possible and useful to their own ends.
- badosu 10y agoRelevant Carlin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4
- lostboys67 10y agoI would beg to differ the USA thinks there are "rights" outwith power as does the UN