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Beauriful but over engineered for its niche and utterly useless. 700bucks for abag squeezer? Something went terribly wrong. It feels like they aimed to produ

Beauriful but over engineered for its niche and utterly useless. 700bucks for abag squeezer? Something went terribly wrong. It feels like they aimed to produce some advanced robotics and built the wrong product. Could turn this into a limb for amputees, makes more sense and actually good use of the resources.

Mendenhall 9y ago
I was not familiar with the product and after reading article I question if I am understanding this right. This press is only for their custom bag of pulp ?
- Karunamon 9y ago
  Correct. You can't use anything else with it. There's a QR code scanner where the bag sits, meaning the press won't even operate unless there's a bag with a recognized (and validated via internet connection) serial number.
  - noam87 9y ago
    This company has to be a front for something; there has to be more to this story... I refuse to believe this is real. $120 million raised!
    - CamperBob2 9y ago
      Only thing I can think of is that they've been granted some extremely broad patents on the general idea of IoT-based food processing.
    - netsharc 9y ago
      Some kid came up with an idea, his bro econ student joined in and drafted a sales pitch, the investment glut means there's too many people with too much money just sitting around in their bank accounts and they thought they could invest in this, because it "surely" will make money since it has analytics (big data) and IoT, and there you have it.
      - ennuihenry 9y ago
        It wasn't a kid though. The guy had some pedigree because he opened a chain of juice bars back in the early 2000s. He's also been in contact with Jony Ive and Bill Gates, so I'm sure his connections helped him.
  - daemin 9y ago
    How easy would it be to just cut out the top of the bag with the QR code and stick it there? Then the machine would squeeze anything inside it within the limited shelf life of that bag. Jokingly I can even see 'the mafia' using it to crush someone's hand in the device. Though that makes me wonder if the machine does provide enough force to do that, and what kind of damage it could do... Anyone can know or figure it out?
    - DanBC 9y ago
      The QR codes had unique numbers which were validated over the Internet.
      - daemin 9y ago
        Hand squeeze the juice then use the QR code to squeeze someone's hand...
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- THE_PUN_STOPS 9y ago
  https://www.juicero.com/the-packs/ https://www.juicero.com/the-packs/ Yep. Can get them as a subscription, each one has a QR code so that the juicer knows it is juicing an OEM pack, and is farmer GMO blah blah blah.
  - bassman9000 9y ago
    > [...] each one has a QR code so that the juicer knows it is juicing an OEM pack, and is farmer GMO blah blah blah Which has zero value for most people.
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threeseed 9y ago
> 700bucks for abag squeezer? Something went terribly wrong. It's far too early to tell. Yes it is expensive but remember there are plenty of wealthy people (hint: early adopters) in this world willing to pay for convenience. If you can show me a cheaper bag squeezer that looks equally good in my kitchen and is as convenient then that would be something. But right now there isn't one. It reminds me very much of Nutribullets or Thermomixes which were both overpriced in the beginning until competitors came in to the market.
- godmodus 9y ago
  My hand mate
eli_gottlieb 9y ago
>700bucks for abag squeezer? Something went terribly wrong. 700 bucks for an Internet of Things bag-squeezer with analytics data generated from your consumption and easy re-use of containers. I've seen at least three or four other start-ups that could be called "Juicero for X". The interesting question is: for what sorts of products do the economics really work out? I don't want to imply everything on this template will fail, even if Juicero... can't be expected to make a healthy profit.
Arizhel 9y ago
I'm wondering now what these machines might be good for as parts. After this company goes belly-up, surely these machines can be had for pennies on Ebay. What can we do with them?
- na85 9y ago
  You can squeeze DRMed bags.
  - godmodus 9y ago
    Salvaged for a robotics project?
  - ascorbic 9y ago
    They have that absurdly over-specced ARM processor, with convenient USB terminals on the PCB for flashing it. I'm sure you could make them useful.
    - Melkman 9y ago
      Calling an STM32F407 absurdly over-specced is hyperbole. It's just a 6$ micro controller, not a smartphone class SoC like a Snapdragon. They probably need it to do the QR code scanning and IoT DRM thingies.
      - dingo_bat 9y ago
        It is certaily over-engineered. All the stuff mentioned can probably be done using an 8bit Atmega.

Mendenhall 9y ago

I was not familiar with the product and after reading article I question if I am understanding this right. This press is only for their custom bag of pulp ?

Karunamon 9y ago
Correct. You can't use anything else with it. There's a QR code scanner where the bag sits, meaning the press won't even operate unless there's a bag with a recognized (and validated via internet connection) serial number.
- noam87 9y ago
  This company has to be a front for something; there has to be more to this story... I refuse to believe this is real. $120 million raised!
  - CamperBob2 9y ago
    Only thing I can think of is that they've been granted some extremely broad patents on the general idea of IoT-based food processing.
  - netsharc 9y ago
    Some kid came up with an idea, his bro econ student joined in and drafted a sales pitch, the investment glut means there's too many people with too much money just sitting around in their bank accounts and they thought they could invest in this, because it "surely" will make money since it has analytics (big data) and IoT, and there you have it.
    - ennuihenry 9y ago
      It wasn't a kid though. The guy had some pedigree because he opened a chain of juice bars back in the early 2000s. He's also been in contact with Jony Ive and Bill Gates, so I'm sure his connections helped him.
- daemin 9y ago
  How easy would it be to just cut out the top of the bag with the QR code and stick it there? Then the machine would squeeze anything inside it within the limited shelf life of that bag. Jokingly I can even see 'the mafia' using it to crush someone's hand in the device. Though that makes me wonder if the machine does provide enough force to do that, and what kind of damage it could do... Anyone can know or figure it out?
  - DanBC 9y ago
    The QR codes had unique numbers which were validated over the Internet.
    - daemin 9y ago
      Hand squeeze the juice then use the QR code to squeeze someone's hand...
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THE_PUN_STOPS 9y ago
https://www.juicero.com/the-packs/ https://www.juicero.com/the-packs/ Yep. Can get them as a subscription, each one has a QR code so that the juicer knows it is juicing an OEM pack, and is farmer GMO blah blah blah.
- bassman9000 9y ago
  > [...] each one has a QR code so that the juicer knows it is juicing an OEM pack, and is farmer GMO blah blah blah Which has zero value for most people.
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threeseed 9y ago

> 700bucks for abag squeezer? Something went terribly wrong. It's far too early to tell. Yes it is expensive but remember there are plenty of wealthy people (hint: early adopters) in this world willing to pay for convenience. If you can show me a cheaper bag squeezer that looks equally good in my kitchen and is as convenient then that would be something. But right now there isn't one. It reminds me very much of Nutribullets or Thermomixes which were both overpriced in the beginning until competitors came in to the market.

godmodus 9y ago
My hand mate

eli_gottlieb 9y ago

>700bucks for abag squeezer? Something went terribly wrong. 700 bucks for an Internet of Things bag-squeezer with analytics data generated from your consumption and easy re-use of containers. I've seen at least three or four other start-ups that could be called "Juicero for X". The interesting question is: for what sorts of products do the economics really work out? I don't want to imply everything on this template will fail, even if Juicero... can't be expected to make a healthy profit.

Arizhel 9y ago

I'm wondering now what these machines might be good for as parts. After this company goes belly-up, surely these machines can be had for pennies on Ebay. What can we do with them?

na85 9y ago
You can squeeze DRMed bags.
- godmodus 9y ago
  Salvaged for a robotics project?
- ascorbic 9y ago
  They have that absurdly over-specced ARM processor, with convenient USB terminals on the PCB for flashing it. I'm sure you could make them useful.
  - Melkman 9y ago
    Calling an STM32F407 absurdly over-specced is hyperbole. It's just a 6$ micro controller, not a smartphone class SoC like a Snapdragon. They probably need it to do the QR code scanning and IoT DRM thingies.
    - dingo_bat 9y ago
      It is certaily over-engineered. All the stuff mentioned can probably be done using an 8bit Atmega.