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The 30% fee robbery is the reason I quit app development, im actually happy I ended up in SaaS business, so thank you Apple

jordansmithnz 9y ago
Is it a robbery if you were aware of it before choosing to sign up?
- gressquel 9y ago
  yeah if you know you dont have a choice, its a duopoly that is being exploited as hell.
qzervaas 9y ago
What do you think is a fair price, given what you get from Apple for that 30%? I'd be more than happy for it to be 0%, but you do get a few things for that cut: * Credit card processing * Handling refunds (you need to do this manually on refund, just another thing to deal with) * Some level of app discovery * Distribution of app and files My biggest problem with the 30% is that it is now the de-facto amount that other similar services charge developers for everything now (Google Play - there are others too that escape me now).
- tyingq 9y ago
  House commission can be compared. Amazon charges 15% for most things. eBay is 9%. Etsy is 3.5%. Software house commission is definitely on the high side. Interesting that Steam, Apple, and Google are all at the same rough figure.
  - scarlac 9y ago
    Some things don't compare well. Unfortunately, fee systems are some of those things. I just looked up Etsy because 3.5% commission seems unrealistically low (credit card fees are easily higher): https://www.etsy.com/help/article/136 https://www.etsy.com/help/article/136 Turns out, they have several other fees on top. So it's not only 3.5%, it's actually $2.4 a year per item. Add to that the credit card fees of minimum 3-4.4% + $0.25 per sale. On top of this, you need to add the shipping fees, currency conversion fees and each platform have their own particular setup. This all goes to show that you can't just randomly pick fees out like that. The total cost to the user needs to be considered.
- tonyedgecombe 9y ago
  You can get most of that for a few percent from places like Avangate or FastSpring.
- gressquel 9y ago
  creditcard processing - i can see plenty of alternatives. app discovery - my app which is far better than the others by various tests. + even behind tons of apps that really just crashes on launch. How is this discovery? People who search for my app by name can't even find it. I have to send out itunes app store links to friends. sickening distribution of files - yeah cause hosting a 19 mb file to 10 000 users is really expensive in 2017

jordansmithnz 9y ago

Is it a robbery if you were aware of it before choosing to sign up?

gressquel 9y ago
yeah if you know you dont have a choice, its a duopoly that is being exploited as hell.

qzervaas 9y ago

What do you think is a fair price, given what you get from Apple for that 30%? I'd be more than happy for it to be 0%, but you do get a few things for that cut: * Credit card processing * Handling refunds (you need to do this manually on refund, just another thing to deal with) * Some level of app discovery * Distribution of app and files My biggest problem with the 30% is that it is now the de-facto amount that other similar services charge developers for everything now (Google Play - there are others too that escape me now).

tyingq 9y ago
House commission can be compared. Amazon charges 15% for most things. eBay is 9%. Etsy is 3.5%. Software house commission is definitely on the high side. Interesting that Steam, Apple, and Google are all at the same rough figure.
- scarlac 9y ago
  Some things don't compare well. Unfortunately, fee systems are some of those things. I just looked up Etsy because 3.5% commission seems unrealistically low (credit card fees are easily higher): https://www.etsy.com/help/article/136 https://www.etsy.com/help/article/136 Turns out, they have several other fees on top. So it's not only 3.5%, it's actually $2.4 a year per item. Add to that the credit card fees of minimum 3-4.4% + $0.25 per sale. On top of this, you need to add the shipping fees, currency conversion fees and each platform have their own particular setup. This all goes to show that you can't just randomly pick fees out like that. The total cost to the user needs to be considered.
tonyedgecombe 9y ago
You can get most of that for a few percent from places like Avangate or FastSpring.
gressquel 9y ago
creditcard processing - i can see plenty of alternatives. app discovery - my app which is far better than the others by various tests. + even behind tons of apps that really just crashes on launch. How is this discovery? People who search for my app by name can't even find it. I have to send out itunes app store links to friends. sickening distribution of files - yeah cause hosting a 19 mb file to 10 000 users is really expensive in 2017