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The door was damaged... no physically, but if it were a hydraulic door and the hydraulic motor was destroyed in the crash, it would be reasonable to expect it t
by jmcdiesel 9y ago
The door was damaged... no physically, but if it were a hydraulic door and the hydraulic motor was destroyed in the crash, it would be reasonable to expect it to be unable to be opened by hydraulics, right? Same for electric. And there is a latch to get out (and i've heard about this latch before from Tesla owners, so maybe its not made 100% super clear, but its not an unknown either). I know I'm going to sound like I'm being a dick, but thats an RTFM problem, not a car problem.
- Analemma_ 9y ago> but if it were a hydraulic door and the hydraulic motor was destroyed in the crash, it would be reasonable to expect it to be unable to be opened by hydraulics, right? Same for electric. The "reasonable expectation that a door will open if it is not visibly damaged" applies no matter what the underlying mechanism of the door is. > but thats an RTFM problem, not a car problem. Even if people did read the manuals for their cars- which no one does- people frequently forget things like this in emergency situations when they need to get out quickly. Hence things like big red signs for fire doors. Passing the responsibility onto them for doors that don't work is absurd.
- jmcdiesel 9y agoIf it were the only door, that would make sense... with 2 working doors and third rear door, i think its a little bit of a stretch...
- zkms 9y agoNot every person will be physically capable of manoeuvring over the seats to a working door (especially after an accident). In this case, the passengers were able to display adaptability and get out, but had they been physically disabled or had there been clutter inside the vehicle, the two front doors and rear door might not have been viable options. That these people were able to escape before the battery fire is, of course, a good ending, but it's not a positive statement on the engineering decisions made.
- 21 9y agoSo if I design a building and make all doors electric, you would be ok to have a small manual release lever hidden behind the middle hinge, as long as it is written in the building manual.
- jmcdiesel 9y agoThats a bad analogy. More apt would be "The main doors are manual, but the electric garage doors will not function" ... which is actually a common case in buildings...
- 21 9y agoHow are the doors that these passengers used to enter the car not the main doors, but the "garage door" of a building?
- zkms 9y agoThe common case in buildings (the ones that aren't prisons) is that anyone, without any knowledge of arcane emergency procedures, and in a power failure, should be able to exit via the door they came in, regardless if that door is latched and locked. :)
- lostmsu 9y agoNot true with any elevator.
- threesixandnine 9y agoThey were passangers at the back as far as I understand. And after a crash there is much confusion and is hardly surprising that the driver didn't have time or simply in shock and forgot about the latch and in a few seconds car was on fire.