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This is the same industry that calls people in their late 20s "senior".

• sokoloff 10y ago
  Late 20s? I've seen title structures where the first promotion is to "senior" and that is often granted ~18 months into working. It's early enough that it can be ambiguous as to whether it means your working title or your year in college.
  • jacquesm 10y ago
    You can blame job ads for that. Since nobody wants to be called 'junior' there are job ads that are clearly targeted at fresh-out-of-school people who somehow are also senior developers. I've seen some amazing young coders that definitely were worthy of that title but they were the exception, not the rule. The tell tale is if the salary that goes with the job is one that you could support a family and a mortgage on. If that's not the case then the position is 'junior'.
  • mattmanser 10y ago
    I saw someone get promoted to a "senior" for rolling his own logging framework. And then starts arguing with me about how long functionality will take when he clearly hasn't got a scooby of what's involved (me 2 months, him 2 days, 2 weeks later and he's still trying to pick apart how the code even works). One of many reasons I bailed from that gig asap.
    • krapp 10y ago
      At a previous gig, I had to explain to my CTO what JSON was and why it was better than the ad-hoc serialization format he made up where every field was delimited by multiple dollar signs. I interned there, and I was probably twice as old as everyone else. Oh, and that JSON was supported natively in PHP. The language they were using.
• psyc 10y ago
  I got my first "senior software engineer" title at the wizened age of 22! I'm not kidding, but it is hilarious.