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I think the problem people have with ORMs includes the fact that it seems like it should let you get away with less-skilled engineers, but the more skilled engi

I think the problem people have with ORMs includes the fact that it seems like it should let you get away with less-skilled engineers, but the more skilled engineers know that the ORM doesn't save nearly as much time/knowledge as it appears to. It's true, you can have a junior person write up a view simply using the ORM as it appears, but then during code review it'll be valuable for the senior person to come in and say things like, "That query is going to suck, here's how you'd get that data without locking so many tables."

gnaritas 10y ago
If any of your queries are locking tables find a better database; what a senior would do is look at the query log and say hey, you've got an N+1 cascade load issue causing this to be so slow, optimize the query to prefetch the sub data or create a view that has the data you need already and map that. Cascade lazy loading is usually what makes an ORM perform badly and it's merely an indication the dev has a query to optimize, not a sign the ORM is broken.