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I like how LSD was discovered [0]. It's so potent that it can be absorbed just by skin contact, that's why police must use gloves when seizing it. Imagine your

by badosu 10y ago

I like how LSD was discovered [0]. It's so potent that it can be absorbed just by skin contact, that's why police must use gloves when seizing it. Imagine yourself coming home with your bicycle and having a massive (250 ug) LSD trip only having experienced it once, pretty scary and interesting at the same time [1]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Hofmann#Discovery_of_LSD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Hofmann#Discovery_of_LS... [1]: http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/articles/lsd_accident.htm http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/articles/lsd_accident.htm

dmix 10y ago
Despite the movies showing weird/scary trips, LSD is a very comforting, pleasant, and soft experience. You don't see things or talk to objects, at most you see some visual stimuli, like blending colors. People who say that they were hallucinating have never tried it or are lying. It would definitely be a surprise though if it was unexpected. A possibly pleasant experience depending on the person though... Definitely the most memorable experiences I've ever had (I agree with Steve Jobs there).
- badosu 10y ago
  The paranoic stimuli and possible unfolding of latent mental conditions can't be underestimated though.
  - RealityVoid 10y ago
    "possible unfolding of latent mental conditions" Interesting, can you expand on this? First time I hear this. I know someone that told me of a friend of his that hid some LSD at a border crossing close to the body and as a result of the trip, the guy got severe permanent psychatric damage in that he's currently residing in an institution. I thought he was full of shit, but if what you're saying is true, he might not have been.
    - dmix 10y ago
      That sounds like the typical word of mouth story FUD that spreads about LSD. I'd be curious to hear more evidence of this "uncovering latent mental illness" as well.
      - Frogolocalypse 10y ago
        It's disturbing that you have no knowledge of a very real side effect of these drugs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotic_break https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotic_break > Several types of psychoactive drugs have been shown to correlate with psychotic breaks It is common knowledge amongst psychiatrists and psychologists, and has been for decades. For most people, no problem. For some people, big problem. Most people that have a psychotic break never fully recover from it either.
      - nommm-nommm 10y ago
        So a good friend of mine got LSD induced psychosis. It wasn't permanent but for about a month he was exhibiting symptoms and he was totally off the deep end for about a week or so. Friends had to bring him to the hospital days later and they kept him in the psych ward for a while. It was incredibly scary that it lasted so long and I was so worried he'd never be the same again.
    - badosu 10y ago
      I am really surprised this is actually being debated on this forum, so I am glad that I am able to help. (edit: referring to a sibling comment) Most psychoactive substances may potentiate and escalate some condition, the simplest example would be to get a full cup of strong coffee after a long period of abstinence (if you suffer from anxiety). In the case of LSD and many other HT2A-receptor agonizing substances I can attest that it has indeed an effect that may result from simple paranoid delusions (I can read what people are thinking of me) to full on panic attacks (They are coming to kill me). The substance in itself is not what really triggers latent disorders but what stimulates an environment in which a condition may deteriorate very fast, that's not to say that in a controlled, safe environment with the appropriate mindset this may be attenuated or even non existent. I could digress about anecdotes here, but I don't feel comfortable, so I'll share a link [0] to an irc network where you can probably find someone tripping on LSD right now, just check if the user has |LSD appended to the nickname. At #drugs people will be glad to talk with you about it, and you may possibly find very helpful information. Just don't do it on #sanctuary or #tripsit as these are there to help people in altered states. [0]: https://chat.tripsit.me/ https://chat.tripsit.me/
- root_axis 10y ago
  > LSD is a very comforting, pleasant, and soft experience Not necessarily, it is a totally subjective experience and very much dependent on the individual and the dosage. > at most you see some visual stimuli, like blending colors. This is an incorrect and dangerous statement, the effects of LSD can be very intense and very easily traumatizing, even in a controlled environment. The intensity of the visual hallucinations has considerable variability between individuals and can most certainly include "seeing things" and "talking to objects". This is without considering the possible permanent side effects like HPPD or the serious risks to those predisposed or with a family history of certain psychological disorders. > People who say that they were hallucinating have never tried it or are lying Very wrong. I am going to flag your post because it contains serious misinformation that could be dangerous if taken as genuine by someone without accurate knowledge of the risks and effects of LSD. edit: I am not against LSD usage and think it can be a very enlightening experience, but the glib dismissals of its potential side effects are wrong and dangerous.
  - dmix 10y ago
    > Very wrong. I am going to flag your post because it contains serious misinformation that could be dangerous if taken as genuine by someone without accurate knowledge of the risks and effects of LSD. Well I'd expect someone would do a bit more research than the four sentences I typed out here... Do you honestly think people are going to run out and get LSD, without any regard, after reading my comment? The majority of people get their information from movies about LSD and that is far more wrong than anything I've said and I believe it scares too many people away from what it is a very safe enjoyable experience. Responsible use of the drug is entirely safe. LSD is famously the safest drug of all recreational drugs. While I may have been a bit laid back when sharing my perspective you've taken it to the far other extreme, spreading FUD about the drug which is exactly what I'm talking about. If you're in a comfortable controlled environment then the risks are very small. And yes I've also read books and read everything I could on the subject before doing it. I suffer from anxiety and depression as well, so I wanted to be fully aware of the risks. I was entirely shocked at how comfortable and pleasant the experience was because I read nothing but warnings and fear mongering like the above post seems to indicate. I hope not everyone gets scared away from it, like I was for so long. The things you warn about are all uncommon side effects or based on other psychological issues outside of the drug, which should be indicators you shouldn't be experimenting with mind altering substances... I actually found a reduction in my recurring mental health issues after using LSD for a least a few weeks after (same with psilocybin which I find is much more liable to cause a bad trip than LSD and I'm personally much more careful with, environment-wise). > I am going to flag your post because it contains serious misinformation Good thing you showed up to be the hero to save people reading about my positive experience /s Hardly surprised at this over-protectiveness. This feeling of needing to control information because you believe people lack the most basic common sense to do their own research is sadly common in society. This is HN. This isn't a mainstream audience, I'm giving people a little benefit of the doubt here. I'm quite certain no one takes doing LSD lightly, you can relax. So yes before doing a serious drug like LSD, do some basic 101 research. But understand the difference between possible side effects and real dangers based on your own psychological profile.
- alistproducer2 10y ago
  this is not true for everyone. people with anxiety issues will have absolutely terrifying trips more often than not.

by badosu 10y ago

dmix 10y ago

Despite the movies showing weird/scary trips, LSD is a very comforting, pleasant, and soft experience. You don't see things or talk to objects, at most you see some visual stimuli, like blending colors. People who say that they were hallucinating have never tried it or are lying. It would definitely be a surprise though if it was unexpected. A possibly pleasant experience depending on the person though... Definitely the most memorable experiences I've ever had (I agree with Steve Jobs there).

badosu 10y ago
The paranoic stimuli and possible unfolding of latent mental conditions can't be underestimated though.
- RealityVoid 10y ago
  "possible unfolding of latent mental conditions" Interesting, can you expand on this? First time I hear this. I know someone that told me of a friend of his that hid some LSD at a border crossing close to the body and as a result of the trip, the guy got severe permanent psychatric damage in that he's currently residing in an institution. I thought he was full of shit, but if what you're saying is true, he might not have been.
  - dmix 10y ago
    That sounds like the typical word of mouth story FUD that spreads about LSD. I'd be curious to hear more evidence of this "uncovering latent mental illness" as well.
    - Frogolocalypse 10y ago
      It's disturbing that you have no knowledge of a very real side effect of these drugs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotic_break https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotic_break > Several types of psychoactive drugs have been shown to correlate with psychotic breaks It is common knowledge amongst psychiatrists and psychologists, and has been for decades. For most people, no problem. For some people, big problem. Most people that have a psychotic break never fully recover from it either.
    - nommm-nommm 10y ago
      So a good friend of mine got LSD induced psychosis. It wasn't permanent but for about a month he was exhibiting symptoms and he was totally off the deep end for about a week or so. Friends had to bring him to the hospital days later and they kept him in the psych ward for a while. It was incredibly scary that it lasted so long and I was so worried he'd never be the same again.
  - badosu 10y ago
    I am really surprised this is actually being debated on this forum, so I am glad that I am able to help. (edit: referring to a sibling comment) Most psychoactive substances may potentiate and escalate some condition, the simplest example would be to get a full cup of strong coffee after a long period of abstinence (if you suffer from anxiety). In the case of LSD and many other HT2A-receptor agonizing substances I can attest that it has indeed an effect that may result from simple paranoid delusions (I can read what people are thinking of me) to full on panic attacks (They are coming to kill me). The substance in itself is not what really triggers latent disorders but what stimulates an environment in which a condition may deteriorate very fast, that's not to say that in a controlled, safe environment with the appropriate mindset this may be attenuated or even non existent. I could digress about anecdotes here, but I don't feel comfortable, so I'll share a link [0] to an irc network where you can probably find someone tripping on LSD right now, just check if the user has |LSD appended to the nickname. At #drugs people will be glad to talk with you about it, and you may possibly find very helpful information. Just don't do it on #sanctuary or #tripsit as these are there to help people in altered states. [0]: https://chat.tripsit.me/ https://chat.tripsit.me/
root_axis 10y ago
> LSD is a very comforting, pleasant, and soft experience Not necessarily, it is a totally subjective experience and very much dependent on the individual and the dosage. > at most you see some visual stimuli, like blending colors. This is an incorrect and dangerous statement, the effects of LSD can be very intense and very easily traumatizing, even in a controlled environment. The intensity of the visual hallucinations has considerable variability between individuals and can most certainly include "seeing things" and "talking to objects". This is without considering the possible permanent side effects like HPPD or the serious risks to those predisposed or with a family history of certain psychological disorders. > People who say that they were hallucinating have never tried it or are lying Very wrong. I am going to flag your post because it contains serious misinformation that could be dangerous if taken as genuine by someone without accurate knowledge of the risks and effects of LSD. edit: I am not against LSD usage and think it can be a very enlightening experience, but the glib dismissals of its potential side effects are wrong and dangerous.
- dmix 10y ago
  > Very wrong. I am going to flag your post because it contains serious misinformation that could be dangerous if taken as genuine by someone without accurate knowledge of the risks and effects of LSD. Well I'd expect someone would do a bit more research than the four sentences I typed out here... Do you honestly think people are going to run out and get LSD, without any regard, after reading my comment? The majority of people get their information from movies about LSD and that is far more wrong than anything I've said and I believe it scares too many people away from what it is a very safe enjoyable experience. Responsible use of the drug is entirely safe. LSD is famously the safest drug of all recreational drugs. While I may have been a bit laid back when sharing my perspective you've taken it to the far other extreme, spreading FUD about the drug which is exactly what I'm talking about. If you're in a comfortable controlled environment then the risks are very small. And yes I've also read books and read everything I could on the subject before doing it. I suffer from anxiety and depression as well, so I wanted to be fully aware of the risks. I was entirely shocked at how comfortable and pleasant the experience was because I read nothing but warnings and fear mongering like the above post seems to indicate. I hope not everyone gets scared away from it, like I was for so long. The things you warn about are all uncommon side effects or based on other psychological issues outside of the drug, which should be indicators you shouldn't be experimenting with mind altering substances... I actually found a reduction in my recurring mental health issues after using LSD for a least a few weeks after (same with psilocybin which I find is much more liable to cause a bad trip than LSD and I'm personally much more careful with, environment-wise). > I am going to flag your post because it contains serious misinformation Good thing you showed up to be the hero to save people reading about my positive experience /s Hardly surprised at this over-protectiveness. This feeling of needing to control information because you believe people lack the most basic common sense to do their own research is sadly common in society. This is HN. This isn't a mainstream audience, I'm giving people a little benefit of the doubt here. I'm quite certain no one takes doing LSD lightly, you can relax. So yes before doing a serious drug like LSD, do some basic 101 research. But understand the difference between possible side effects and real dangers based on your own psychological profile.
alistproducer2 10y ago
this is not true for everyone. people with anxiety issues will have absolutely terrifying trips more often than not.