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I'm always amused by people expressing alarm from future things that they won't be there to experience. Like a Victorian ranting about Tinder. Who cares what yo

by okasaki 10y ago

I'm always amused by people expressing alarm from future things that they won't be there to experience. Like a Victorian ranting about Tinder. Who cares what you think? You'll be dead, and the people alive then certainly won't share your reservations.

gkilmain 10y ago
I'll be 75 in 2050.
- always_good 10y ago
  Your Tinder profile: This isn't even my final form.
VLM 10y ago
1) People get massive political signalling points by talking about global warming. Where's my social love for being concerned about loneliness? Just being realistic about things, you are far more likely to suffer from loneliness in the future than from global warming. 2) Also relates to attitudes toward having children, such as not having them, or trying to raise them into my ethnic cultural beliefs, or let my culture die and the kids can get their culture from TV and the internet (which you'd like to think would be PBS and HN, but could just as likely be "married with children" reruns and 4chan)
xg15 10y ago
I don't know, that attitude seems awfully shortsighted to me. You could dismiss efforts to save the environment and combat climate change by the same logic: "Who knows, maybe our children will be just fine with us radically altering the ecosystem..." I think the argument ignores that: a) we can make some educated guesses about future generations - based on ourselves and our own ancestors; b) the future might be here sooner than you think. To take climate change again as an analogy, first predictions have seen the deadline for CO2 adjustment somewhere around 2100. Over the years, the deadline has been moved further and further back. Similarly, 2050 is an estimate that might as well be wrong, given the current pace of technological innovation.
norea-armozel 10y ago
It's more about what makes us human is being lost. The ability to socialize, even if you're bad at it like me, is a big part of the human condition. If we let capitalists continue to alienate us from each other all we'll become is just smarter cows. And my complaint isn't even remotely like that of a Victorian complaining about Tinder for one good reason: I don't care with whom you socialize or how. But latching onto corporate brands in place of a fully sentient being is a recipe for permanent slave mentality. And I'd rather someone make a friend with a robot (like in the film Robot and Frank) than pledge undying love to a corporation. A corporation and its "brands" aren't our friends. It's why I despise companies like Apple because they've tried (and in some part succeeded) in shoving the lifestyle consumerism crap down our throats.

by okasaki 10y ago

gkilmain 10y ago

I'll be 75 in 2050.

always_good 10y ago
Your Tinder profile: This isn't even my final form.

VLM 10y ago

1) People get massive political signalling points by talking about global warming. Where's my social love for being concerned about loneliness? Just being realistic about things, you are far more likely to suffer from loneliness in the future than from global warming. 2) Also relates to attitudes toward having children, such as not having them, or trying to raise them into my ethnic cultural beliefs, or let my culture die and the kids can get their culture from TV and the internet (which you'd like to think would be PBS and HN, but could just as likely be "married with children" reruns and 4chan)

xg15 10y ago

I don't know, that attitude seems awfully shortsighted to me. You could dismiss efforts to save the environment and combat climate change by the same logic: "Who knows, maybe our children will be just fine with us radically altering the ecosystem..." I think the argument ignores that: a) we can make some educated guesses about future generations - based on ourselves and our own ancestors; b) the future might be here sooner than you think. To take climate change again as an analogy, first predictions have seen the deadline for CO2 adjustment somewhere around 2100. Over the years, the deadline has been moved further and further back. Similarly, 2050 is an estimate that might as well be wrong, given the current pace of technological innovation.

norea-armozel 10y ago

It's more about what makes us human is being lost. The ability to socialize, even if you're bad at it like me, is a big part of the human condition. If we let capitalists continue to alienate us from each other all we'll become is just smarter cows. And my complaint isn't even remotely like that of a Victorian complaining about Tinder for one good reason: I don't care with whom you socialize or how. But latching onto corporate brands in place of a fully sentient being is a recipe for permanent slave mentality. And I'd rather someone make a friend with a robot (like in the film Robot and Frank) than pledge undying love to a corporation. A corporation and its "brands" aren't our friends. It's why I despise companies like Apple because they've tried (and in some part succeeded) in shoving the lifestyle consumerism crap down our throats.