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Care to clarify/confirm that I understood correctly that you mean to say the asians/whites are racists for living longer? How did you reach this conclusion? E

Care to clarify/confirm that I understood correctly that you mean to say the asians/whites are racists for living longer? How did you reach this conclusion? Edit: and it looks like hispanics are actually living the longest https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6335a8.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6335a8.htm

Consultant32452 9y ago
I didn't say Asians/whites are racist. I said the SS system itself is racist because it disproportionately benefits some races over others. Arguably the legislators and voters who want to keep the same system are racist too, though I suppose the voters are just ignorant. I highly doubt the legislators are ignorant of this problem.
- braveo 9y ago
  > because it disproportionately benefits some races over others. That's not what racism means, stop abusing a word to further your own agenda. I mean what next, skin pigmentation is racist because it causes higher rates of skin cancer in some races than others?
  - throwanem 9y ago
    The obvious counter, I think, would be that Social Security, unlike the sun, is a system of human design, and susceptible to human redesign - which the sun isn't, not yet at least. (For clarity, I'm not espousing this position, and will not defend it with any energy should it be attacked. I post it because I'm as curious what a supporter of the "Social Security is racist" claim will think of it, as I am convinced that it's the most obvious consistent response to your point.)
    - braveo 9y ago
      and I would agree that SS is not perfect, and that it CAN be improved. I just dislike characterizing it as racist. You can absolutely argue for the betterment of SS, even on the grounds that it inadvertently affects things along racial lines, without calling it a racist system.
- throwanem 9y ago
  Would one be correct to regard as a trivial inference from your argument the statement that Social Security is also ageist, because in the aggregate it benefits older people over younger? If not, why not?
- antisthenes 9y ago
  It is classist first and foremost, which the article does a very good job of describing and backing up with data, then, perhaps racist.

Consultant32452 9y ago

I didn't say Asians/whites are racist. I said the SS system itself is racist because it disproportionately benefits some races over others. Arguably the legislators and voters who want to keep the same system are racist too, though I suppose the voters are just ignorant. I highly doubt the legislators are ignorant of this problem.

braveo 9y ago
> because it disproportionately benefits some races over others. That's not what racism means, stop abusing a word to further your own agenda. I mean what next, skin pigmentation is racist because it causes higher rates of skin cancer in some races than others?
- throwanem 9y ago
  The obvious counter, I think, would be that Social Security, unlike the sun, is a system of human design, and susceptible to human redesign - which the sun isn't, not yet at least. (For clarity, I'm not espousing this position, and will not defend it with any energy should it be attacked. I post it because I'm as curious what a supporter of the "Social Security is racist" claim will think of it, as I am convinced that it's the most obvious consistent response to your point.)
  - braveo 9y ago
    and I would agree that SS is not perfect, and that it CAN be improved. I just dislike characterizing it as racist. You can absolutely argue for the betterment of SS, even on the grounds that it inadvertently affects things along racial lines, without calling it a racist system.
throwanem 9y ago
Would one be correct to regard as a trivial inference from your argument the statement that Social Security is also ageist, because in the aggregate it benefits older people over younger? If not, why not?
antisthenes 9y ago
It is classist first and foremost, which the article does a very good job of describing and backing up with data, then, perhaps racist.