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Why exactly did you choose two arbitrary news stories, to prove what? Some news stories resonate more than others? Trayvon Martin Case was more about the bigge

by mxfh 10y ago

Why exactly did you choose two arbitrary news stories, to prove what? Some news stories resonate more than others? Trayvon Martin Case was more about the bigger topic of racial profiling than about the case itself, an already highly politicized social issue in the US which condensed on that case. The Rotherham scandal was to all current knowledge an event of singular magnitude of local non-US scope, with no bigger topic to resonate against other than xenophobia.

DarkKomunalec 10y ago
> Some news stories resonate more than others? 'Resonate'. That's a nice way of putting some stories are more reported than others. > The Rotherham scandal was to all current knowledge a singular event of local non-US scope, with no bigger topic to resonate against other than xenophobia. I didn't limit Google trends to the US, so I don't see why non-US scope is relevant. But are you're saying that the Rotherham scandal was reported on less because it resonates with xenophobia? That journalists suppress stories if they promote the wrong ideology? Also, 'singular event'? Forgetting for the moment that it was at least 1400 events over a period of 16 years, did you bother to scroll to the bottom of the Rotherham scandal wikipedia page, and click on the link that leads to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexual_abuses_perpetrated_by_groups#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexual_abuses_perpetra... ?
- mxfh 10y ago
  Just because you news events don't happen to get picked up according exactly to your priorities doesn't mean there is a hidden agenda. There tons of stories that are underreported in my opinion, yet if you ever came anywhere near a copy desk you might know that in non-authoritarian countries there simply to much chaos there to pull of a coordinated effort of that magnitude.
  - pottersbasilisk 10y ago
    Actually alot people on the right and left believe in the media pushing narratives. http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/28/1464146/-6-Corporations-Control-The-Media-and-Control-the-Narrative http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/28/1464146/-6-Corporatio... http://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/journolist-inside-the-echo-chamber-020086 http://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/journolist-inside-the-... Journolist showed that journalists do in fact discuss what narrative to push.
- notahacker 10y ago
  > But are you're saying that the Rotherham scandal was reported on less because it resonates with xenophobia? That journalists suppress stories if they promote the wrong ideology? No, we're saying that the suppression of the Rotherham scandal which was extensively reported on by the British media exists only in the imagination of the far right and people that don't understand how Google Trends works, as you conveniently demonstrated by earlier linking to an Wikipedia article explaining that it was investigative journalism by the Times - about as mainstream as UK news journalism gets - that ultimately lead to a public enquiry. I'm not convinced that drawing attention to the fact other sex scandals happened in the UK under completely different circumstances and were generally less reported on than the Rotherham ones and didn't necessarily get multiple BBC Panorama specials devoted to them like the Rotherham ones really helps your case.

by mxfh 10y ago

DarkKomunalec 10y ago

> Some news stories resonate more than others? 'Resonate'. That's a nice way of putting some stories are more reported than others. > The Rotherham scandal was to all current knowledge a singular event of local non-US scope, with no bigger topic to resonate against other than xenophobia. I didn't limit Google trends to the US, so I don't see why non-US scope is relevant. But are you're saying that the Rotherham scandal was reported on less because it resonates with xenophobia? That journalists suppress stories if they promote the wrong ideology? Also, 'singular event'? Forgetting for the moment that it was at least 1400 events over a period of 16 years, did you bother to scroll to the bottom of the Rotherham scandal wikipedia page, and click on the link that leads to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexual_abuses_perpetrated_by_groups#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexual_abuses_perpetra... ?

mxfh 10y ago
Just because you news events don't happen to get picked up according exactly to your priorities doesn't mean there is a hidden agenda. There tons of stories that are underreported in my opinion, yet if you ever came anywhere near a copy desk you might know that in non-authoritarian countries there simply to much chaos there to pull of a coordinated effort of that magnitude.
- pottersbasilisk 10y ago
  Actually alot people on the right and left believe in the media pushing narratives. http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/28/1464146/-6-Corporations-Control-The-Media-and-Control-the-Narrative http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/28/1464146/-6-Corporatio... http://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/journolist-inside-the-echo-chamber-020086 http://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/journolist-inside-the-... Journolist showed that journalists do in fact discuss what narrative to push.
notahacker 10y ago
> But are you're saying that the Rotherham scandal was reported on less because it resonates with xenophobia? That journalists suppress stories if they promote the wrong ideology? No, we're saying that the suppression of the Rotherham scandal which was extensively reported on by the British media exists only in the imagination of the far right and people that don't understand how Google Trends works, as you conveniently demonstrated by earlier linking to an Wikipedia article explaining that it was investigative journalism by the Times - about as mainstream as UK news journalism gets - that ultimately lead to a public enquiry. I'm not convinced that drawing attention to the fact other sex scandals happened in the UK under completely different circumstances and were generally less reported on than the Rotherham ones and didn't necessarily get multiple BBC Panorama specials devoted to them like the Rotherham ones really helps your case.