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Would definitely buy if it behaved like i3 on linux. i3 doesn't use predefined layouts like most WM. I find it much more logical than awesome, xmonad, etc.

by mmgutz 10y ago

lostmsu 10y ago
I am hoping to eventually cover that approach as well. As long as you stay with simple non-overlapping grids, it should be easy to implement. However, i3 is quite functional, and Stack supports overlapping when necessary. So there're some UX compatibility problems to think about. I'd be interested to know what functionality do you really use on a regular basis. Especially, it would be interesting to know _why_ do you use it. E.g. not just "I want to split my screen in half and put W1 to the left, and W2 to the right" but "I want to see all my open windows the most comfortable way possible". For example: generally you don't just want a chat window constantly visible, you also don't usually need it to take half of 30 inch screen. So with an ideal app you should say, that it does not require more than 10cm width and 6cm height, and WM will figure out the rest.
- dave_sullivan 10y ago
  I use i3 (gaps, because it's pretty) and would also be excited about a windows version. I'm not a super sophisticated user of it. I appreciate ability to arbitrarily split panes vertically or horizontally and also moving windows around with alt+shift+hjkl. Alt + enter brings up a new terminal. Ctrl + d brings up dmenu or similar "global search/run text input". It's easy to jump around virtual screens/tabs (alt + tab#). Alt+f full screens a pane. Basically you don't need the mouse much and it uses hjkl so vim users like it. If you get those, it's probably pretty good coverage for i3 fans.
  - kkleindev 10y ago
    I have always been wondering whether there are actually people preferring alt over super as mod. Now I know. :)
    - throwanem 10y ago
      Not that many, I should think. Most applications don't make use of super, so it's a natural fit for WM bindings.
      - jrimbault 10y ago
        Doesn't macOS abuses its super key ? (cmd ?) Every time I use a macbook I twist my fingers horribly to copy and paste.
        throwanem 10y ago
        It does. Remapping Command onto Caps Lock helps a lot with the hand cramps, and Control makes a pretty good super key since almost nothing uses it. Still a mess, but it's manageable if you know how.
  - lostmsu 10y ago
    I think some things are already available: - moving windows around is done with Win+Arrow key - if you want to bring a new terminal with a hotkey, you can just assign one in shortcut properties (that's a Windows feature). Once automation feature is implemented, that terminal will behave similarly (or better than i3). - sounds like Ctrl + d is basically Win key on Windows, that brings up start menu with integrated search - virtual screens are already available on Windows 10, and there are hotkeys - maximizing a window already has a hotkey in Windows 10 as well - Win + Up. Currently, Stack overrides that hotkey though - hjkl sounds possible, however, I'd like to avoid modes, so they'll have to be used with modifiers I will see what I can do to make it possible to run similarly to i3.
- segphault 10y ago
  I'm also very interested in i3-style tiling instead of pre-configured layouts. I like being able to manage the splits more dynamically. I also really like i3's concept of hierarchies, being able to nest the splits. And being able to switch a particular group between tabbed and horizontal/vertical organization. Regarding your $3 price for the paid version, I think you should be careful not to set the price too low. I happily paid $18 for the professional version of AquaSnap.
  - lostmsu 10y ago
    I certainly did not expect "shut up and take my money" kind of attitude :-D
tomaskafka 10y ago
Yep - I admit that the first thing I did was to middle-drag the window to the right edge expecting it to create a new 1/3 box on the right side of screen.
braveo 10y ago
same. I compare all windows tiling solutions to i3, and they all come up short significantly.
jefurii 10y ago
I've tried a bunch of tiling WMs and had this same frustration with predefined layouts. OpenBox has turned out to work best for me. It's not a tiling WM exactly but you can map "GrowToEdge(North|South|East|West)" and get a very tile-like effect.

Would definitely buy if it behaved like i3 on linux. i3 doesn't use predefined layouts like most WM. I find it much more logical than awesome, xmonad, etc.

by mmgutz 10y ago

Would definitely buy if it behaved like i3 on linux. i3 doesn't use predefined layouts like most WM. I find it much more logical than awesome, xmonad, etc.

lostmsu 10y ago

I am hoping to eventually cover that approach as well. As long as you stay with simple non-overlapping grids, it should be easy to implement. However, i3 is quite functional, and Stack supports overlapping when necessary. So there're some UX compatibility problems to think about. I'd be interested to know what functionality do you really use on a regular basis. Especially, it would be interesting to know _why_ do you use it. E.g. not just "I want to split my screen in half and put W1 to the left, and W2 to the right" but "I want to see all my open windows the most comfortable way possible". For example: generally you don't just want a chat window constantly visible, you also don't usually need it to take half of 30 inch screen. So with an ideal app you should say, that it does not require more than 10cm width and 6cm height, and WM will figure out the rest.

dave_sullivan 10y ago
I use i3 (gaps, because it's pretty) and would also be excited about a windows version. I'm not a super sophisticated user of it. I appreciate ability to arbitrarily split panes vertically or horizontally and also moving windows around with alt+shift+hjkl. Alt + enter brings up a new terminal. Ctrl + d brings up dmenu or similar "global search/run text input". It's easy to jump around virtual screens/tabs (alt + tab#). Alt+f full screens a pane. Basically you don't need the mouse much and it uses hjkl so vim users like it. If you get those, it's probably pretty good coverage for i3 fans.
- kkleindev 10y ago
  I have always been wondering whether there are actually people preferring alt over super as mod. Now I know. :)
  - throwanem 10y ago
    Not that many, I should think. Most applications don't make use of super, so it's a natural fit for WM bindings.
    - jrimbault 10y ago
      Doesn't macOS abuses its super key ? (cmd ?) Every time I use a macbook I twist my fingers horribly to copy and paste.
      - throwanem 10y ago
        It does. Remapping Command onto Caps Lock helps a lot with the hand cramps, and Control makes a pretty good super key since almost nothing uses it. Still a mess, but it's manageable if you know how.
- lostmsu 10y ago
  I think some things are already available: - moving windows around is done with Win+Arrow key - if you want to bring a new terminal with a hotkey, you can just assign one in shortcut properties (that's a Windows feature). Once automation feature is implemented, that terminal will behave similarly (or better than i3). - sounds like Ctrl + d is basically Win key on Windows, that brings up start menu with integrated search - virtual screens are already available on Windows 10, and there are hotkeys - maximizing a window already has a hotkey in Windows 10 as well - Win + Up. Currently, Stack overrides that hotkey though - hjkl sounds possible, however, I'd like to avoid modes, so they'll have to be used with modifiers I will see what I can do to make it possible to run similarly to i3.
segphault 10y ago
I'm also very interested in i3-style tiling instead of pre-configured layouts. I like being able to manage the splits more dynamically. I also really like i3's concept of hierarchies, being able to nest the splits. And being able to switch a particular group between tabbed and horizontal/vertical organization. Regarding your $3 price for the paid version, I think you should be careful not to set the price too low. I happily paid $18 for the professional version of AquaSnap.
- lostmsu 10y ago
  I certainly did not expect "shut up and take my money" kind of attitude :-D

tomaskafka 10y ago

Yep - I admit that the first thing I did was to middle-drag the window to the right edge expecting it to create a new 1/3 box on the right side of screen.

braveo 10y ago

same. I compare all windows tiling solutions to i3, and they all come up short significantly.

jefurii 10y ago

I've tried a bunch of tiling WMs and had this same frustration with predefined layouts. OpenBox has turned out to work best for me. It's not a tiling WM exactly but you can map "GrowToEdge(North|South|East|West)" and get a very tile-like effect.