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This is truly despicable. Honestly, they signed up users for a _completely_ different service and monetize by mining gmail data. TBH, I feel the same rage again

This is truly despicable. Honestly, they signed up users for a _completely_ different service and monetize by mining gmail data. TBH, I feel the same rage against all Google services which are about taking notes, mail, contacts, location and what not whereas in reality they are just mining away. For the startups out there - the Big G is an exception because their service is so wide spread and hard to ignore that people accept their mining as a necessary evil but for others this is totally not a good business model.

zitterbewegung 9y ago
You are selling google short. Google doesn't sell their consumer data to anyone directly. They use it to help inform advertisers how to sell stuff to you. Uproll is directly selling data about their customers to third parties for whoever will pay.
- obstinate 9y ago
  They don't inform advertisers of anything. They allow advertisers to bid to show you an ad. That's all.
- newsat13 9y ago
  This is not true of unroll. From the blog, "I can't stress enough the importance of your privacy. We never, ever release personal data about you. All data is completely anonymous and related to purchases only. To get a sense of what this data looks like and how it is used, check out the Slice Intelligence blog.". So they are the same as Google. At the end of the day, nobody outside the company truly knows if either of them sell identifiable information.
  - TheCoelacanth 9y ago
    YMMV on how anonymous anonymized data actually is considering that most people are uniquely identified by the combination of date of birth, zip code and gender[1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2942967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2942967
jacquesm 9y ago
> Honestly, they signed up users for a _completely_ different service and monetize by mining gmail data. That is also in contravention of the EU DPD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive Specifically, point 2: Purpose.

zitterbewegung 9y ago

You are selling google short. Google doesn't sell their consumer data to anyone directly. They use it to help inform advertisers how to sell stuff to you. Uproll is directly selling data about their customers to third parties for whoever will pay.

obstinate 9y ago
They don't inform advertisers of anything. They allow advertisers to bid to show you an ad. That's all.
newsat13 9y ago
This is not true of unroll. From the blog, "I can't stress enough the importance of your privacy. We never, ever release personal data about you. All data is completely anonymous and related to purchases only. To get a sense of what this data looks like and how it is used, check out the Slice Intelligence blog.". So they are the same as Google. At the end of the day, nobody outside the company truly knows if either of them sell identifiable information.
- TheCoelacanth 9y ago
  YMMV on how anonymous anonymized data actually is considering that most people are uniquely identified by the combination of date of birth, zip code and gender[1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2942967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2942967

jacquesm 9y ago

> Honestly, they signed up users for a _completely_ different service and monetize by mining gmail data. That is also in contravention of the EU DPD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive Specifically, point 2: Purpose.