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While I'm not interested in getting into a semantic argument around something arbitrary like what "getting the web" means, unless I'm missing something (which i

While I'm not interested in getting into a semantic argument around something arbitrary like what "getting the web" means, unless I'm missing something (which is absolutely possible!) I don't think it's fair to compare the Apple App Store (https://itunes.apple.com/us/genre/ios/id36?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/genre/ios/id36?mt=8) to the Google Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps?hl=en https://play.google.com/store/apps?hl=en). One of these is clearly baked for the web, and one of these is not. Also, as an aside, if I have missed something and there is a better app store experience for Apple please let me know - I just chose the top result searching for "Apple App Store".

narrowrail 10y ago
Apple optimizes their app stores for devices that are able to actually install these apps. I don't think it's as convoluted as you seem to think it is. I have one Apple device (MBA) and I have never agreed to the iTunes TOS and never opened it. I have no interest in the App Store except when nagged for updates. Homebrew and SSH to my linux desktop fulfill my needs, and after 4+ years I get ~6hrs battery life. The web has really gone down hill, and one thing I actually like about Apple is they embrace more of the internet than just the web/advertising.
- kaishiro 10y ago
  "Apple optimizes their app stores for devices that are able to actually install these apps." Right, yes, we agree on that. And I don't find anything at all convoluted about it, I'm not sure why you would think that - there is nothing particularly complex about any of this. My only point is that, in my personal opinion, it's a far nicer experience to explore apps for potential install on an Android phone, via the play store website, then it is for an Apple phone, via this...listing page - when you're not on the device itself. It's possible I'm simply in the minority here but when I'm chilling on the couch thinking I need a new (insert application here), I'd rather use the screen with more real estate. Re: your battery life...cool?
  - HappyTypist 10y ago
    People who use Apple products generally use Apple full stack. They'd open the App Store on their iPad, browse for an app, and iCloud will install it across all their devices.
    - kaishiro 10y ago
      As a user of Apple products, I'm saying that this isn't always true.
- ValentineC 10y ago
  > Homebrew and SSH to my linux desktop fulfill my needs, and after 4+ years I get ~6hrs battery life. Possibly unrelated, but did you find a way around having to install XCode before being able to install Homebrew?
  - mattkevan 10y ago
    It's possible to download and install the Xcode command line tools independently from Xcode itself.
  - kaishiro 10y ago
    You can install just the command line tools of xcode: xcode-select --install Not sure if you mean is it possible without those as well.
system16 10y ago
> is a better app store experience for Apple please let me know It's definitely no Google Play Store, but as a general App Store search alternative I like https://fnd.io/ https://fnd.io/ as it's a bit more web friendly. Unfortunately, you still need to jump into the App Store/iTunes to actually download anything.

narrowrail 10y ago

Apple optimizes their app stores for devices that are able to actually install these apps. I don't think it's as convoluted as you seem to think it is. I have one Apple device (MBA) and I have never agreed to the iTunes TOS and never opened it. I have no interest in the App Store except when nagged for updates. Homebrew and SSH to my linux desktop fulfill my needs, and after 4+ years I get ~6hrs battery life. The web has really gone down hill, and one thing I actually like about Apple is they embrace more of the internet than just the web/advertising.

kaishiro 10y ago
"Apple optimizes their app stores for devices that are able to actually install these apps." Right, yes, we agree on that. And I don't find anything at all convoluted about it, I'm not sure why you would think that - there is nothing particularly complex about any of this. My only point is that, in my personal opinion, it's a far nicer experience to explore apps for potential install on an Android phone, via the play store website, then it is for an Apple phone, via this...listing page - when you're not on the device itself. It's possible I'm simply in the minority here but when I'm chilling on the couch thinking I need a new (insert application here), I'd rather use the screen with more real estate. Re: your battery life...cool?
- HappyTypist 10y ago
  People who use Apple products generally use Apple full stack. They'd open the App Store on their iPad, browse for an app, and iCloud will install it across all their devices.
  - kaishiro 10y ago
    As a user of Apple products, I'm saying that this isn't always true.
ValentineC 10y ago
> Homebrew and SSH to my linux desktop fulfill my needs, and after 4+ years I get ~6hrs battery life. Possibly unrelated, but did you find a way around having to install XCode before being able to install Homebrew?
- mattkevan 10y ago
  It's possible to download and install the Xcode command line tools independently from Xcode itself.
- kaishiro 10y ago
  You can install just the command line tools of xcode: xcode-select --install Not sure if you mean is it possible without those as well.

system16 10y ago

> is a better app store experience for Apple please let me know It's definitely no Google Play Store, but as a general App Store search alternative I like https://fnd.io/ https://fnd.io/ as it's a bit more web friendly. Unfortunately, you still need to jump into the App Store/iTunes to actually download anything.