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FWIW, the behaviour is not just not endorsed, but actively disendorsed, e.g. the code of conduct (which applies to the Rust-team-run venues) includes "Respect t
by dbaupp 9y ago
FWIW, the behaviour is not just not endorsed, but actively disendorsed, e.g. the code of conduct (which applies to the Rust-team-run venues) includes "Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.", and /r/rust has a "No zealotry" rule. Both of these are enforced in their respective spaces, and both of these have existed for years: they're not a reaction to the recent RESF meme.
It's... harder/less-defensible to enforce codes of conduct/rules like these in third-party spaces, but Rust people still do often call out incorrect assertions/ridiculous comments. Someone not familiar with the community may not recognise that the people doing the calling out are actually "prominent" voices.
- sidlls 9y agoThis is like the evangelists' attempt to distinguish "safe rust" from "unsafe rust": it's a distinction without difference. "The community" isn't just the inner circle of official Rust team members and evangelists and their particular forums where they can enforce any policy as aggressively as they like. For better or worse, "the Rust community" will necessarily be bigger than that if/as Rust grows. My view is that Rust risks a similar track as Haskell if the community continues to grow in the way it has recently. It's not a healthy community, outside of the circles you note. Quite the opposite--I view it rather as being fairly toxic.
- dbaupp 9y agoI don't understand what exactly you're disagreeing with. I was strengthening "I'm sure the language designers and core developers don't actively endorse this behavior", and also mentioned how those people do try to keep discussions truthful and relevant outside those spaces.