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I'm an H-1B who would be thrilled to see these companies shut down. If they were removed, the competition for non fraudulent H-1Bs would dramatically reduce and

I'm an H-1B who would be thrilled to see these companies shut down. If they were removed, the competition for non fraudulent H-1Bs would dramatically reduce and the whole process would become much less painful. Fantastic if Trump actually acts on this.

KKKKkkkk1 9y ago
Remember the interview where Trump said he ate fantastic chocolate cake and then launched cruise missiles toward Iraq (when in fact it was Syria)? Be careful what you wish for! You think he's going to kick out the Indian outsourcing companies, but it might be you who will be kicked out.
- letitgo12345 9y ago
  Given how awful wait times for green cards have gotten for Indians (even with a Masters from a top university (and sometimes even PhD...), if you apply now, you can expect to wait a couple of decades while for every other country but China you get it immediately), I think a lot of Indians are fine with gambling on drastic changes to be honest and seeing where the chips fall.
  - venture_lol 9y ago
    Masters and PhD matters for the green card process. I don't think the institution matters. Maybe there ought to be another level for folks who have won awards from recognized societies and associations such as Nobel, ACM, what not
    - belltaco 9y ago
      https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/o-1-visa-individuals-extraordinary-ability-or-achievement https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-worker...
      - uiri 9y ago
        That is a non-immigrant work visa good for up to 3 years. It is not intended to be used by immigrants. It is not a permanent status like a green card.
  - ChemicalWarfare 9y ago
    Not sure where you getting your information from - I've worked with ppl from the Middle East and Eastern Europe and it was taking them years to get their green cards. I know this guy from Lebanon who ended up moving to Canada to work for the same company he was working for in the US because he overstayed his h1b and was nowhere near getting a green card.
    - heeen2 9y ago
      Colleague from Latvia got it in under a year, he said Germans would have a similar time frame. Russians as well I think
      - mavelikara 9y ago
        Anybody applying to become an employment-based immigrant other than those born in India, China, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico or Philippines will get theirs processed in about a year. For specifics, see the table titled "Employment based" in the latest visa bulletin at https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/law-and-policy/bulletin/2017/visa-bulletin-for-may-2017.html https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/law-and-policy/bul...
    - mavelikara 9y ago
      Not the parent, but he is right. If you are not from India or China, the GC takes about a year - once you find an employer who would apply for it. People who are from India or China wait for the same amount of time plus about a decade. I often run into people who ask me about my immigration status and when I say that I am waiting for my GC to be done, they nod sympathetically, roll their eyes and tell about someone they know who "had to wait two years! Gosh!!". I tell them, with as much politeness I can muster, that I have been in the country for over 10 years, have filed for my GC 5 years ago,, and expect to wait another 5 to get it.
      - letitgo12345 9y ago
        Given the slow rate at which cutoff dates move, I fully expect it to take 20 years before the EB2 (essentially masters for those unfamiliar with the system) queue catches up to the present.
nomiyor 9y ago
I am an indian who had worked with one of them and i really hated it. The poorly paid employees are just kept waiting for an onsite opportunity to US or europe. The leads and managers are a disaster. It is good that it is happening and will help the indians and not just the US citizens. Atleast with this a huge number of employees with will not be abused with the onsite dream.
- wlesieutre 9y ago
  A non-indian friend of mine worked for one of them out of college and didn't love it either. And it's not just the H1-B abuse, there's a class action suit for discrimination against the few Americans they actually hire. Filed back in 2015, I can't find any news on where it went. Anyway, seems like a crappy place to work all around. Except for management, presumably.
  - nomiyor 9y ago
    These managers dont manage they plunder and abuse. Now i am in another software product company in India the leaders / managers dont act that way. They motivate and lead by example and not take advantage of young and motivated associates aspirations
- winter_blue 9y ago
  A more general question to ask based on this is: is there something about Indian culture (or people who grow up in India / Indian culture), that make many of the managers complete jerks? The same question could be asked about corruption in India. A lot of Indians just seem overly eager to screw each other over, and lord it over each other. You see this in Indian colleges, with the so-called phenomenon of "ragging", which is really just socially accepted mental/physical abuse. I just feel Americans (while many are total assholes), that the majority are generally much nicer as a people, and they don't treat each other like complete crap. What's wrong with Indian culture? How does Indian society manage to cultivate so many terrible people? (serious question)
  - kermire 9y ago

KKKKkkkk1 9y ago

Remember the interview where Trump said he ate fantastic chocolate cake and then launched cruise missiles toward Iraq (when in fact it was Syria)? Be careful what you wish for! You think he's going to kick out the Indian outsourcing companies, but it might be you who will be kicked out.

letitgo12345 9y ago
Given how awful wait times for green cards have gotten for Indians (even with a Masters from a top university (and sometimes even PhD...), if you apply now, you can expect to wait a couple of decades while for every other country but China you get it immediately), I think a lot of Indians are fine with gambling on drastic changes to be honest and seeing where the chips fall.
- venture_lol 9y ago
  Masters and PhD matters for the green card process. I don't think the institution matters. Maybe there ought to be another level for folks who have won awards from recognized societies and associations such as Nobel, ACM, what not
  - belltaco 9y ago
    https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/o-1-visa-individuals-extraordinary-ability-or-achievement https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-worker...
    - uiri 9y ago
      That is a non-immigrant work visa good for up to 3 years. It is not intended to be used by immigrants. It is not a permanent status like a green card.
- ChemicalWarfare 9y ago
  Not sure where you getting your information from - I've worked with ppl from the Middle East and Eastern Europe and it was taking them years to get their green cards. I know this guy from Lebanon who ended up moving to Canada to work for the same company he was working for in the US because he overstayed his h1b and was nowhere near getting a green card.
  - heeen2 9y ago
    Colleague from Latvia got it in under a year, he said Germans would have a similar time frame. Russians as well I think
    - mavelikara 9y ago
      Anybody applying to become an employment-based immigrant other than those born in India, China, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico or Philippines will get theirs processed in about a year. For specifics, see the table titled "Employment based" in the latest visa bulletin at https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/law-and-policy/bulletin/2017/visa-bulletin-for-may-2017.html https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/law-and-policy/bul...
  - mavelikara 9y ago
    Not the parent, but he is right. If you are not from India or China, the GC takes about a year - once you find an employer who would apply for it. People who are from India or China wait for the same amount of time plus about a decade. I often run into people who ask me about my immigration status and when I say that I am waiting for my GC to be done, they nod sympathetically, roll their eyes and tell about someone they know who "had to wait two years! Gosh!!". I tell them, with as much politeness I can muster, that I have been in the country for over 10 years, have filed for my GC 5 years ago,, and expect to wait another 5 to get it.
    - letitgo12345 9y ago
      Given the slow rate at which cutoff dates move, I fully expect it to take 20 years before the EB2 (essentially masters for those unfamiliar with the system) queue catches up to the present.

nomiyor 9y ago

I am an indian who had worked with one of them and i really hated it. The poorly paid employees are just kept waiting for an onsite opportunity to US or europe. The leads and managers are a disaster. It is good that it is happening and will help the indians and not just the US citizens. Atleast with this a huge number of employees with will not be abused with the onsite dream.

wlesieutre 9y ago
A non-indian friend of mine worked for one of them out of college and didn't love it either. And it's not just the H1-B abuse, there's a class action suit for discrimination against the few Americans they actually hire. Filed back in 2015, I can't find any news on where it went. Anyway, seems like a crappy place to work all around. Except for management, presumably.
- nomiyor 9y ago
  These managers dont manage they plunder and abuse. Now i am in another software product company in India the leaders / managers dont act that way. They motivate and lead by example and not take advantage of young and motivated associates aspirations
winter_blue 9y ago
A more general question to ask based on this is: is there something about Indian culture (or people who grow up in India / Indian culture), that make many of the managers complete jerks? The same question could be asked about corruption in India. A lot of Indians just seem overly eager to screw each other over, and lord it over each other. You see this in Indian colleges, with the so-called phenomenon of "ragging", which is really just socially accepted mental/physical abuse. I just feel Americans (while many are total assholes), that the majority are generally much nicer as a people, and they don't treat each other like complete crap. What's wrong with Indian culture? How does Indian society manage to cultivate so many terrible people? (serious question)
- kermire 9y ago