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> "The abuse of the H1-B Visa program is breaking the law since it is only supposed to be used in cases where there is no American qualified to do the job" Isn

by slake 9y ago

> "The abuse of the H1-B Visa program is breaking the law since it is only supposed to be used in cases where there is no American qualified to do the job" Isn't this basically an issue of "no american qualified to do the job" "at the price the market is willing to pay for that job"? It's not unfair to think that these American companies that save costs by using H1-B or offshored workers pass on those savings to customers and shareholders (since so many are public). Their products have an inherent savings because these companies are saving money using the H1B right? I'm Indian and don't really care either way about this debate, but it just seems to me 'fixing' the H1B issue wouldn't really bring jobs back to the US. These companies are already used to such cheap IT labor and their final product/service pricing reflects that. You think they'll suddenly hire 50-60% more expensive US workers for those jobs? IMHO I think this will lead to more offshoring of jobs and the US will lose more jobs that were atleast situated in the US geographically and contributing to US taxes.

davidf18 9y ago
> "Isn't this basically an issue of "no american qualified to do the job" "at the price the market is willing to pay for that job"?" It's called global labor arbitrage. The intent of the H1-B visa law is not to drive down STEM wage rates or replace Americans with lower wage immigrants, but rather to fill jobs for which no American is qualified. It has been abused. > "but it just seems to me 'fixing' the H1B issue wouldn't really bring jobs back to the US." H1-B are immigrants working in America so by fixing the H1-B visa issue fewer H1-B immigrants will be working in the US and more Americans will be doing the work. I feel that those cases like Disney, Southern California Edison, Univ California San Francisco and Abbott Laboratories all cases where H1-B Visa workers were used to replace Americans in America should have the Visas cancelled the the firms prohibited from using H1-B directly or indirectly for 10 years. Many US firms have tried to offshore computer programming and in many cases found that it does not work. Penny wise, pound foolish.
- slake 9y ago
  > fixing the H1-B visa issue fewer H1-B immigrants will be working in the US and more Americans will be doing the work That's if you assume this work can only be performed in the US. For the difference in costs I'm guessing the companies will find a way to offshore it. > Many US firms have tried to offshore computer programming and in many cases found that it does not work. Penny wise, pound foolish. That's anecdotal. Majority of the firms that did outsource work quite well. IBMs largest staff contingent is in India. It's not just programming, analytics, tech consulting, pre-sales, some marketing, architectural work, etc.

by slake 9y ago

davidf18 9y ago

> "Isn't this basically an issue of "no american qualified to do the job" "at the price the market is willing to pay for that job"?" It's called global labor arbitrage. The intent of the H1-B visa law is not to drive down STEM wage rates or replace Americans with lower wage immigrants, but rather to fill jobs for which no American is qualified. It has been abused. > "but it just seems to me 'fixing' the H1B issue wouldn't really bring jobs back to the US." H1-B are immigrants working in America so by fixing the H1-B visa issue fewer H1-B immigrants will be working in the US and more Americans will be doing the work. I feel that those cases like Disney, Southern California Edison, Univ California San Francisco and Abbott Laboratories all cases where H1-B Visa workers were used to replace Americans in America should have the Visas cancelled the the firms prohibited from using H1-B directly or indirectly for 10 years. Many US firms have tried to offshore computer programming and in many cases found that it does not work. Penny wise, pound foolish.

slake 9y ago
> fixing the H1-B visa issue fewer H1-B immigrants will be working in the US and more Americans will be doing the work That's if you assume this work can only be performed in the US. For the difference in costs I'm guessing the companies will find a way to offshore it. > Many US firms have tried to offshore computer programming and in many cases found that it does not work. Penny wise, pound foolish. That's anecdotal. Majority of the firms that did outsource work quite well. IBMs largest staff contingent is in India. It's not just programming, analytics, tech consulting, pre-sales, some marketing, architectural work, etc.