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they treat their employees and sales/solutions partners (even americans) like fucking garbage. like, the problems only barely begin at not paying their bills a
by iamacynic 9y ago
they treat their employees and sales/solutions partners (even americans) like fucking garbage. like, the problems only barely begin at not paying their bills and speaking rudely to people on the phone. it's 100% indicative of some kind of a guaranteed revenue stream. nobody else acts that way, not even i.e. oracle or microsoft. in fact big "real" technology companies are usually a pleasure to deal with once you understand how they work.
and it's not just the big players -- there are dozens if not hundreds of little cottage industries bodyshops that use their previous bigfirm alumni connections to do the exact same thing. fuck all of them. ever hear of an "approved vendors list"? those are all now hijacked by bodyshop crony dipshits. and that's just the tip of the scam iceberg. i haven't dealt with any of these assholes in over 5 years and it still makes me angry.
excuse my french but this is a HUGE problem in our industry and needs straight talk. h1b's aren't the only people they abuse. that's just the engine that drives the entire shit show forward.
- chvid 9y agoExactly what is the scam here? I understand to you think they (TCS etc.) are rude and not well-qualified but there are American customers who are paying for their consulting services by the hour; I assume they are fundamentally satisfied otherwise they would go elsewhere? That they are putting in a lot applications - that seems to be within the letter of the law; maybe not the intention but I am not sure as this have been going for a while.
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- douche 9y agoThe people that pay the bills are frequently several layers removed from actually working with these outfits.
- GordonS 9y agoThis. In a lot of companies, top management are the ones that make the decision to outsource - and for a lot of them, cost is by far the largest factor they care about. The people below them get to firefight and deal with the fallout.
- defined 9y agoThis is how it works. They're fundamentally satisfied because their staffing budgets look awesomely low, there is a latency between the time the hiring is done and the dung hits the turbine, then they somehow manage to pass the blame for the shitty systems on to external factors, and they move on to a higher paid position or take their golden parachute before the horrible reality sinks in to those left behind that they have been royally shafted. The shaftees are too embarrassed to admit they were hoodwinked (and stupid), so they make excuses too, and the cycle repeats. The whole time this is happening, the competent engineers have been screaming and rending their garments, to no avail, until they are laid off for not being team players or for earning too much.
- cylinder 9y agoIt's not just IT, it's just like this in law with document review sweatshops and we are American citizens!