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It doesn't block other ads. It blocks analytics from competitors. So you are free to run analytics and ads from whoever you want... unless they are own by a dev

It doesn't block other ads. It blocks analytics from competitors. So you are free to run analytics and ads from whoever you want... unless they are own by a device manufacture that directly compete with the iPhone.

martythemaniak 16y ago
Uh, thanks, but I already know what the article I posted said. My point is, iAds will be an easy sell if all competitors are kneecapped.
- dieterrams 16y ago
  I don't think you quite got it. Only mobile advertisers who also compete with Apple on devices and OSes are affected. This does not make all competitors "kneecapped". Edit: Really? I'm getting downvoted for this? Gruber's point that Apple's critics won't let facts get in their way gets proven once again.
  - dieterrams 16y ago
    Still with the downvotes. Not that I care about losing points, but how badly does it reflect on you when you downvote someone for presenting a fact?
gyardley 16y ago
Or unless they are owned or affiliated with a distributor of mobile devices, or unless they are owned or affiliated with a developer or distributor of mobile operating systems, or unless they are owned or affiliated with a developer of a mobile development environment, or unless their primary business isn't serving mobile ads. (And that's the advertising side. On the analytics side, it would appear to block all analytics software - the opposite of what you say above - but that's another discussion.) Depending on how strictly Apple interprets 'affiliated with' and 'primary business', which aren't strictly defined in the license agreement, that's pretty much everyone in the space - even the 'independent' mobile ad networks have relationships with carriers, and carriers certainly distribute mobile devices. It's a pretty typical Apple license agreement, really - it's extremely wide-reaching, open to interpretation, and the real question is how Apple will enforce it at any given point in time.

martythemaniak 16y ago

Uh, thanks, but I already know what the article I posted said. My point is, iAds will be an easy sell if all competitors are kneecapped.

dieterrams 16y ago
I don't think you quite got it. Only mobile advertisers who also compete with Apple on devices and OSes are affected. This does not make all competitors "kneecapped". Edit: Really? I'm getting downvoted for this? Gruber's point that Apple's critics won't let facts get in their way gets proven once again.
- dieterrams 16y ago
  Still with the downvotes. Not that I care about losing points, but how badly does it reflect on you when you downvote someone for presenting a fact?

gyardley 16y ago

Or unless they are owned or affiliated with a distributor of mobile devices, or unless they are owned or affiliated with a developer or distributor of mobile operating systems, or unless they are owned or affiliated with a developer of a mobile development environment, or unless their primary business isn't serving mobile ads. (And that's the advertising side. On the analytics side, it would appear to block all analytics software - the opposite of what you say above - but that's another discussion.) Depending on how strictly Apple interprets 'affiliated with' and 'primary business', which aren't strictly defined in the license agreement, that's pretty much everyone in the space - even the 'independent' mobile ad networks have relationships with carriers, and carriers certainly distribute mobile devices. It's a pretty typical Apple license agreement, really - it's extremely wide-reaching, open to interpretation, and the real question is how Apple will enforce it at any given point in time.