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So you've described a person who believed that the NHS would get £350M extra a week, and also wanted to "make UK great again", and you've called them stupid. I

So you've described a person who believed that the NHS would get £350M extra a week, and also wanted to "make UK great again", and you've called them stupid. I will now describe a person who was scared to leave the EU because of how it might affect their spending power, and didn't care less about the implications to democracy of staying in the EU, and will call them stupid, selfish and short sighted. So where does that leave us? Have we gained something from this?

tigershark 10y ago
I lost about 7-8k£ until now thanks to the brexit and the pound value that collapsed (just counting pure expenses, not considering any asset that I own). So you had all the rights to call me stupid, idiot and whatever you wanted if I had voted for leave. But it's not the case because I don't believe at whatever false propaganda is on air at a certain moment. I believe only to facts and I look at my interests. And the slumping pound is an incontrovertible fact that even guys like you that try to negate reality cannot possibly contest. At the end for me doesn't really change much, I still have a good job and in the worst case I have EU citizenship if everything collapses. I'm not sure that the fishermen, the factory workers and all the others that gets billions from EU subsidies and that voted to leave are still fine in case everything collapses.
- mike-cardwell 10y ago
  I didn't call you stupid. I created a straw man, and called him stupid. Just like you created a straw man, and called that one stupid. 1. There are people who voted based on how they thought it would affect themselves personally. 2. There are people who voted based on the long term interests of what they thought was best for the people of the UK and Europe. I made a conscious effort to be in camp 2. It sounds like you're squarely placing yourself in camp 1. The value of the pound has recently dropped and you find that to be relevant. I don't and I'm poorer for it too. I can see that you based your vote on the short term personal economic impact, rather the long term effect it would have on human beings living in European countries. That's ok. You can call people stupid. As long as you're comfortable being called selfish. I still don't see the value in any of this.

tigershark 10y ago

I lost about 7-8k£ until now thanks to the brexit and the pound value that collapsed (just counting pure expenses, not considering any asset that I own). So you had all the rights to call me stupid, idiot and whatever you wanted if I had voted for leave. But it's not the case because I don't believe at whatever false propaganda is on air at a certain moment. I believe only to facts and I look at my interests. And the slumping pound is an incontrovertible fact that even guys like you that try to negate reality cannot possibly contest. At the end for me doesn't really change much, I still have a good job and in the worst case I have EU citizenship if everything collapses. I'm not sure that the fishermen, the factory workers and all the others that gets billions from EU subsidies and that voted to leave are still fine in case everything collapses.

mike-cardwell 10y ago
I didn't call you stupid. I created a straw man, and called him stupid. Just like you created a straw man, and called that one stupid. 1. There are people who voted based on how they thought it would affect themselves personally. 2. There are people who voted based on the long term interests of what they thought was best for the people of the UK and Europe. I made a conscious effort to be in camp 2. It sounds like you're squarely placing yourself in camp 1. The value of the pound has recently dropped and you find that to be relevant. I don't and I'm poorer for it too. I can see that you based your vote on the short term personal economic impact, rather the long term effect it would have on human beings living in European countries. That's ok. You can call people stupid. As long as you're comfortable being called selfish. I still don't see the value in any of this.