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Angular/Angular4 is a joy to develop with, so that's too bad you're limiting yourselves artificially. We have groovy in my stack at work and everyone despises

Angular/Angular4 is a joy to develop with, so that's too bad you're limiting yourselves artificially. We have groovy in my stack at work and everyone despises it. Fortunately that's a legacy we're moving away from.

bollockitis 9y ago
Out of curiosity, what does everyone despise about Groovy?
- virmundi 9y ago
  It's not the new hotness anymore. Scala came along. The author of Groovey says Scalia is better. It's also semidynamic. So if you don't like that, you won't like that (tautology of the day). Updated for Scalia to Scala.
  - bobwaycott 9y ago
    Do you mean Scala? I got a good a chuckle imagining the late Justice Scalia here. :)
  - vorg 9y ago
    > The author of Groovey says Scalia is better. You mean James Strachan? That was 8 years ago. In November last year he said "I still love groovy (jenkins pipelines are so groovy!), java, go, typescript and kotlin. I don't use Scala anymore." [1] Sounds like he uses Kotlin instead of Scala, and only uses Apache Groovy in Jenkins pipelines. And given that the Groovy collections methods are disabled so they don't actually work in Jenkins, I imagine he uses Java 8 or Kotlin for that purpose. [1] https://twitter.com/jstrachan/status/784333918078169088 https://twitter.com/jstrachan/status/784333918078169088
thaiphanvevo 9y ago
I have never heard anybody say that Angular 2+ is a joy to work with before. What about it do you like?
izacus 9y ago
But is it joy for customers to use the stuff you wrote in it? So many of these opinions always focus on the developers having fun instead of wondering what experience is for the user and maintainers.
- vladgur 9y ago
  It's a valid question that has nothing to do with a tool/framework and everything to do with product goal and time/resources
- TomMarius 9y ago
  95% of the time I can significantly improve the user experience thanks to React.

bollockitis 9y ago

Out of curiosity, what does everyone despise about Groovy?

virmundi 9y ago
It's not the new hotness anymore. Scala came along. The author of Groovey says Scalia is better. It's also semidynamic. So if you don't like that, you won't like that (tautology of the day). Updated for Scalia to Scala.
- bobwaycott 9y ago
  Do you mean Scala? I got a good a chuckle imagining the late Justice Scalia here. :)
- vorg 9y ago
  > The author of Groovey says Scalia is better. You mean James Strachan? That was 8 years ago. In November last year he said "I still love groovy (jenkins pipelines are so groovy!), java, go, typescript and kotlin. I don't use Scala anymore." [1] Sounds like he uses Kotlin instead of Scala, and only uses Apache Groovy in Jenkins pipelines. And given that the Groovy collections methods are disabled so they don't actually work in Jenkins, I imagine he uses Java 8 or Kotlin for that purpose. [1] https://twitter.com/jstrachan/status/784333918078169088 https://twitter.com/jstrachan/status/784333918078169088

thaiphanvevo 9y ago

I have never heard anybody say that Angular 2+ is a joy to work with before. What about it do you like?

izacus 9y ago

But is it joy for customers to use the stuff you wrote in it? So many of these opinions always focus on the developers having fun instead of wondering what experience is for the user and maintainers.

vladgur 9y ago
It's a valid question that has nothing to do with a tool/framework and everything to do with product goal and time/resources
TomMarius 9y ago
95% of the time I can significantly improve the user experience thanks to React.