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You hope this doesn't gain traction because you're selfish? Devuan people aren't forcing you to write anything other than unit files. Support whatever you want

You hope this doesn't gain traction because you're selfish? Devuan people aren't forcing you to write anything other than unit files. Support whatever you want and let other people freely developing their own distributions. because free software.

scrollaway 10y ago
Watch your attitude. I'll take a bet that the person you're replying to contributes to foss far more than you do. If GP were "selfish" he wouldn't give a rat's arse about sysvinit in the first place, but in this community you clearly don't know the first thing about, there is such a thing as compatibility-friendly development. If a config you don't like is popular, you still end up having to support it; that is why all the popular python projects I wrote are still Python 2 compatible. If I wanted to have it my way, it'd all be Py3.6 only.
Sphax 10y ago
They can do whatever they want, I just hope nobody follows their path because as a user sysvinit is objectively worse than systemd.
- JdeBP 10y ago
  The nonsense in your thinking is your belief that the two choices are System 5 rc and systemd, and that therefore "their path" must be the former. You need not have even read the headlined page too far to have found https://devuan.org/os/init-freedom/ https://devuan.org/os/init-freedom/ which gives the lie to that. The Devuan people are quite wrong about Debian and OpenRC, but the point here is that they don't force upon you that binary choice any more than anyone else does and what they themselves outright tell you about their path contradicts your thinking. The whole it-is-a-binary-choice-between-systemd-and-system-5-rc idea is bunkum, a myth. It wasn't true on Debian, where the hoo-hah had votes amongst upstart, OpenRC, systemd, and System 5 rc. It wasn't true on Ubuntu and Fedora, which had both been using upstart for years before their respective switches to systemd. It isn't true on Devuan, per what is right in front of you stated by the Devuan people theirselves. It is discussed amongst several other myths at http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ . You are propounding it.

scrollaway 10y ago

Watch your attitude. I'll take a bet that the person you're replying to contributes to foss far more than you do. If GP were "selfish" he wouldn't give a rat's arse about sysvinit in the first place, but in this community you clearly don't know the first thing about, there is such a thing as compatibility-friendly development. If a config you don't like is popular, you still end up having to support it; that is why all the popular python projects I wrote are still Python 2 compatible. If I wanted to have it my way, it'd all be Py3.6 only.

Sphax 10y ago

They can do whatever they want, I just hope nobody follows their path because as a user sysvinit is objectively worse than systemd.

JdeBP 10y ago
The nonsense in your thinking is your belief that the two choices are System 5 rc and systemd, and that therefore "their path" must be the former. You need not have even read the headlined page too far to have found https://devuan.org/os/init-freedom/ https://devuan.org/os/init-freedom/ which gives the lie to that. The Devuan people are quite wrong about Debian and OpenRC, but the point here is that they don't force upon you that binary choice any more than anyone else does and what they themselves outright tell you about their path contradicts your thinking. The whole it-is-a-binary-choice-between-systemd-and-system-5-rc idea is bunkum, a myth. It wasn't true on Debian, where the hoo-hah had votes amongst upstart, OpenRC, systemd, and System 5 rc. It wasn't true on Ubuntu and Fedora, which had both been using upstart for years before their respective switches to systemd. It isn't true on Devuan, per what is right in front of you stated by the Devuan people theirselves. It is discussed amongst several other myths at http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ . You are propounding it.