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Things might be more subtle than they seem: These subtitles are a big enabler for piracy. If you are not as fluent in English, stuff like popcorn time isn't v

Things might be more subtle than they seem: These subtitles are a big enabler for piracy. If you are not as fluent in English, stuff like popcorn time isn't very usefull.

jacobush 10y ago
Very true. A ... ahem, friend of mine, has bought DVDs just to get at decent subtitles.
- kazinator 10y ago
  Next time I'm in Japan, I plan to look for and buy a DVD for which I made fan subs. If a DVD has subs, chances are the pirated versions of it contain the ripped version of those subs. Fansubbing generally refers to making subs for material that has no subs at all, or not in that language. OCR-ing some captions or subs and pumping through Google translate isn't exactly fansubbing.
  - sdflkd 10y ago
    It sucks when official subtitles for even movies like Your Name can sound off to someone who has only picked up a few words / phrases from watching anime. Same with popular games like Persona 5. :(
    - kazinator 10y ago
      Official subtitles are sometimes awful, and are a good reason for fansubbers not to take down their subs even when something is officially released in their country with subs.
- estebank 10y ago
  Any multilingual person that consumes foreign media targeted at the local market knows that official subtitles are hit-and-miss, sometimes writing down something that sounds the same, but it's not (where/were) and in some cases even reversing the meaning of the sentence. Fansubs, on the other hand, if they are for popular media they have outstanding work poured into them, and when it is for niche media they might be slightly lower quality, but in those cases official subtitles are not available at all in the first place.
  - moomin 10y ago
    I remember watching Alien 3 at the cinema with French subtitles: Audio: She's down in there with the beast! Subtitles: She's down in there with the priest! (Weirdly, beast and priest sound much the same in French, too.) Or when watching Neverending Story the turtle says "one thousand miles". The subtitles convert this to kilometres with 6 decimal places showing.
    - kmm 10y ago
      > (Weirdly, beast and priest sound much the same in French, too.) Not that weirdly :) "beast" and "priest" are loanwords from the Old French "beste" and "prestre". They then both went through sound changes. English changed the /ɛ/ in both words to a /i/, and in French, the /s/ disappeared.
  - jacobush 10y ago
    Actually Swedish fansubs tend to have horrible quality, probably because many downloading savvy people in Sweden do just fine without subtitles (for English movies). And those that do need subtitles try (sometimes with tragi-comical results) to help themselves...

Things might be more subtle than they seem: These subtitles are a big enabler for piracy. If you are not as fluent in English, stuff like popcorn time isn't very usefull.

jacobush 10y ago

Very true. A ... ahem, friend of mine, has bought DVDs just to get at decent subtitles.

kazinator 10y ago
Next time I'm in Japan, I plan to look for and buy a DVD for which I made fan subs. If a DVD has subs, chances are the pirated versions of it contain the ripped version of those subs. Fansubbing generally refers to making subs for material that has no subs at all, or not in that language. OCR-ing some captions or subs and pumping through Google translate isn't exactly fansubbing.
- sdflkd 10y ago
  It sucks when official subtitles for even movies like Your Name can sound off to someone who has only picked up a few words / phrases from watching anime. Same with popular games like Persona 5. :(
  - kazinator 10y ago
    Official subtitles are sometimes awful, and are a good reason for fansubbers not to take down their subs even when something is officially released in their country with subs.
estebank 10y ago
Any multilingual person that consumes foreign media targeted at the local market knows that official subtitles are hit-and-miss, sometimes writing down something that sounds the same, but it's not (where/were) and in some cases even reversing the meaning of the sentence. Fansubs, on the other hand, if they are for popular media they have outstanding work poured into them, and when it is for niche media they might be slightly lower quality, but in those cases official subtitles are not available at all in the first place.
- moomin 10y ago
  I remember watching Alien 3 at the cinema with French subtitles: Audio: She's down in there with the beast! Subtitles: She's down in there with the priest! (Weirdly, beast and priest sound much the same in French, too.) Or when watching Neverending Story the turtle says "one thousand miles". The subtitles convert this to kilometres with 6 decimal places showing.
  - kmm 10y ago
    > (Weirdly, beast and priest sound much the same in French, too.) Not that weirdly :) "beast" and "priest" are loanwords from the Old French "beste" and "prestre". They then both went through sound changes. English changed the /ɛ/ in both words to a /i/, and in French, the /s/ disappeared.
- jacobush 10y ago
  Actually Swedish fansubs tend to have horrible quality, probably because many downloading savvy people in Sweden do just fine without subtitles (for English movies). And those that do need subtitles try (sometimes with tragi-comical results) to help themselves...