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It should be clear that advocating population removal is the kind of uncivil and inflammatory comment that we need precisely zero of here. We detached this flag

• jimmyk 10y ago
  It makes me a bit sad that this comment was killed. I've never before been exposed to the point of view expressed within it, which seems to be genuinely held by the commenter, and it makes me wonder how many other genuinely held points of view I've never heard because someone else didn't want me to be able to form my own opinion on it. I think it's important for people to understand where others are coming from, and it doesn't seem like this particular point of view could be expressed in any form, no matter how polite, without being removed from this forum. I think that's unfortunate.
  • mtmail 10y ago
    In your profile you can set the showdead=yes to see those comments. There's advocating genocide, and shooting people on sight in an older comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10721429 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10721429
    • jimmyk 10y ago
      I have showdead on, which is why I was able to see the comment. There's advocating genocide, and shooting people on sight in an older comment. I understand you're not the person that killed the comment, but could the commenter have expressed either of those points of view in a way that wouldn't have resulted in them being removed? If not, I think that's unfortunate. We're adults here and should be able to handle genuine conversation on sensitive topics, I would hope.
      • sctb 10y ago
        You've expressed your point quite clearly, and I appreciate it. Hacker News is not the place for every kind of discussion, and it's fair for users to flag this comment because the guidelines say that we're not here to have this particular one. If civility entails politeness out of respect and consideration for others, then surely it must also include valuing their lives.
        • Altay- 10y ago
          I would arguea HN thread about home security systems that shoot intruders upon home invasion would be tolerated on HN. So self-defense / death alone are not enough to flag a comment. Political movements like ELF (Earth Liberation Front) used arguments similar to mine on why, for example, coal plants are legitimate targets in self defense.
        • jimmyk 10y ago
          then surely it must also include valuing their lives Valuing them above what? There are probably not very many people on this planet that can truly claim to value all human life equally and above everything else.
    • Altay- 10y ago
      The comment you linked was an (perhaps poor) attempt to prove the absurdity of free market ideology by taking it to the extreme.
• Altay- 10y ago
  My goal with the term 'population removal' was not to be uncivil or inflammatory. Killing people is wrong, but forecfully moving large groups of people is something practiced by every nation, including democratic liberal ones like the USA. Its a policy, not an evil act in and of itself. I can respect that HN isn't the place for this sort of discussion, but I do not accept that my comment was uncivil or inflammatory.