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Where are you going to expend your energy? The whole world is full of misogency, do you spend your time trying to fix that, or worry about the compartively smal

Where are you going to expend your energy? The whole world is full of misogency, do you spend your time trying to fix that, or worry about the compartively small number of times men face unfairness?

nnfy 9y ago
Your view needs to be deliberately myopic to seriously believe that a woman's life in a modern first world country is somehow more unfair than a man's. If you're seriously going to play this game regarding fairness of life in general, consider the immense disparity in social and especially sexual capital that women generally hold over and use against men. Not to mention the unspoken preference with which they're hired and retained in the work place. If you insist on looking at this as an us vs them problem, then most of the remaining problems are self imposed-i.e. the primary ones limiting women from playing with male toys, or going into stem, or dressing in a certain way, are other women. Such is culture. Edit: my comment has been flagged for daring to espouse the wrong opinion. This is how progress dies, when discussion is stifled. This is, ironically, bias. Why do people believe that moderating unpopular viewpoints makes them disappear?
Chris2048 9y ago
Flip this same argument around, and you get accused of derailing/silencing: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Misdirected_feminism http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Misdirected_feminism
- moopling 9y ago
  Hmmmmm, that's a really good point. I suppose I agree that in general an argument that there is worse shit in the world is probably a bad reason to ignore other problems. In this case however it'd be difficult to do anything about biases against men without exacerbating sexism further. If you can think of a way of making things fairer for men, without making things worse for women at the same time I'm all for it.
  - Chris2048 9y ago
    > In this case however it'd be difficult to do anything about biases against men without exacerbating sexism How so? It's not even established that an unequal gender ratio is "sexism" at all.

Where are you going to expend your energy? The whole world is full of misogency, do you spend your time trying to fix that, or worry about the compartively small number of times men face unfairness?

nnfy 9y ago

Your view needs to be deliberately myopic to seriously believe that a woman's life in a modern first world country is somehow more unfair than a man's. If you're seriously going to play this game regarding fairness of life in general, consider the immense disparity in social and especially sexual capital that women generally hold over and use against men. Not to mention the unspoken preference with which they're hired and retained in the work place. If you insist on looking at this as an us vs them problem, then most of the remaining problems are self imposed-i.e. the primary ones limiting women from playing with male toys, or going into stem, or dressing in a certain way, are other women. Such is culture. Edit: my comment has been flagged for daring to espouse the wrong opinion. This is how progress dies, when discussion is stifled. This is, ironically, bias. Why do people believe that moderating unpopular viewpoints makes them disappear?

Chris2048 9y ago

Flip this same argument around, and you get accused of derailing/silencing: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Misdirected_feminism http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Misdirected_feminism

moopling 9y ago
Hmmmmm, that's a really good point. I suppose I agree that in general an argument that there is worse shit in the world is probably a bad reason to ignore other problems. In this case however it'd be difficult to do anything about biases against men without exacerbating sexism further. If you can think of a way of making things fairer for men, without making things worse for women at the same time I'm all for it.
- Chris2048 9y ago
  > In this case however it'd be difficult to do anything about biases against men without exacerbating sexism How so? It's not even established that an unequal gender ratio is "sexism" at all.