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No, they're not using the Light Client yet for that very reason, but easily could in the future. But in any case, no crypto wallets are light clients. All Bitco

No, they're not using the Light Client yet for that very reason, but easily could in the future. But in any case, no crypto wallets are light clients. All Bitcoin wallets, for example, use servers because it's impossible to do Bitcoin light clients (at least, they haven't found a solution yet). This app is more about having WeChat with crypto payments and with app interactions. Light client could come later though.

fabiosussetto 9y ago
So for now the Ethereum promise to have a distributed network where I don't need to trust any man in the middle is really not possible yet on mobile devices?
- terhechte 9y ago
  In theory, you could run a private client on DigitalOcean and then connect to that. Apart from that, true light clients are coming [1]. Particularly interesting is this comment by the ethereum light client developer: [2] "Can't promise anything yet but we're not that far from real trustless O(1) light client syncing." [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/5x27ss/after_metropolis_will_there_be_any_feature_other/def49oc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/5x27ss/after_metr... They may even [1] https://blog.ethereum.org/2017/01/07/introduction-light-client-dapp-developers/ https://blog.ethereum.org/2017/01/07/introduction-light-clie...
wslh 9y ago
> All Bitcoin wallets, for example, use servers because it's impossible to do Bitcoin light clients (at least, they haven't found a solution yet). No, SPV clients exist to avoid running a node: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4649/what-is-an-spv-client https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4649/what-is-an-...
- AroundTheBlock_ 9y ago
  No true light client exists. SPV is different. See here a Core dev talking about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/53bfj6/will_there_be_official_litespv_wallet_for_users/d7swdyy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/53bfj6/will_there_... Even your own links says "A Bitcoin implementation that does not verify everything, but instead relies on either connecting to a trusted node"
  - jerguismi 9y ago
    SPV client security is enough for numerous use cases and many call them "light clients".
  - wslh 9y ago
    It verifies enough information to be secure. It is obvious that at one point they need to connect to some node because this ia the way blockcgain works.
    - AroundTheBlock_ 9y ago
      Ok sure, connect to another node. But a light client is its own node.
      - wslh 9y ago
        That doesn't exist per definition. You cannot have a light client that its own node and it is not the node defined in the specific blockchain. The bitcoin innovation was about using a common ledger for every node and the nodes must run specific code to check that the blockchain state is the correct one. If you find a way a node can do less work that what is doing now without relying on another node you would discover something new at the computer science level, so this light node will transform into the definition of a node.
jerguismi 9y ago
> All Bitcoin wallets, for example, use servers because it's impossible to do Bitcoin light clients (at least, they haven't found a solution yet). This is totally false. So called SPV clients have been available since 2011 I think. Where the hell did you get this information? Just curious. Examples of lite bitcoin clients include (but not limited to) breadwallet, bitcoin wallet for android (Schildbach), multibit, bittiraha-walletd etc.

fabiosussetto 9y ago

So for now the Ethereum promise to have a distributed network where I don't need to trust any man in the middle is really not possible yet on mobile devices?

terhechte 9y ago
In theory, you could run a private client on DigitalOcean and then connect to that. Apart from that, true light clients are coming [1]. Particularly interesting is this comment by the ethereum light client developer: [2] "Can't promise anything yet but we're not that far from real trustless O(1) light client syncing." [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/5x27ss/after_metropolis_will_there_be_any_feature_other/def49oc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/5x27ss/after_metr... They may even [1] https://blog.ethereum.org/2017/01/07/introduction-light-client-dapp-developers/ https://blog.ethereum.org/2017/01/07/introduction-light-clie...

wslh 9y ago

> All Bitcoin wallets, for example, use servers because it's impossible to do Bitcoin light clients (at least, they haven't found a solution yet). No, SPV clients exist to avoid running a node: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4649/what-is-an-spv-client https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4649/what-is-an-...

AroundTheBlock_ 9y ago
No true light client exists. SPV is different. See here a Core dev talking about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/53bfj6/will_there_be_official_litespv_wallet_for_users/d7swdyy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/53bfj6/will_there_... Even your own links says "A Bitcoin implementation that does not verify everything, but instead relies on either connecting to a trusted node"
- jerguismi 9y ago
  SPV client security is enough for numerous use cases and many call them "light clients".
- wslh 9y ago
  It verifies enough information to be secure. It is obvious that at one point they need to connect to some node because this ia the way blockcgain works.
  - AroundTheBlock_ 9y ago
    Ok sure, connect to another node. But a light client is its own node.
    - wslh 9y ago
      That doesn't exist per definition. You cannot have a light client that its own node and it is not the node defined in the specific blockchain. The bitcoin innovation was about using a common ledger for every node and the nodes must run specific code to check that the blockchain state is the correct one. If you find a way a node can do less work that what is doing now without relying on another node you would discover something new at the computer science level, so this light node will transform into the definition of a node.

jerguismi 9y ago

> All Bitcoin wallets, for example, use servers because it's impossible to do Bitcoin light clients (at least, they haven't found a solution yet). This is totally false. So called SPV clients have been available since 2011 I think. Where the hell did you get this information? Just curious. Examples of lite bitcoin clients include (but not limited to) breadwallet, bitcoin wallet for android (Schildbach), multibit, bittiraha-walletd etc.