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I hate to sound so critical, it sure looks like an interesting project, but could developers of such applications/websites please stop putting everything on the

I hate to sound so critical, it sure looks like an interesting project, but could developers of such applications/websites please stop putting everything on their web page in marketing speech? Why do so many FOSS developers imitate the worst aspects of the proprietary, commercial software world? I looked at the feature descriptions and they are full of meaningless buzzwords like "crowd sourced wisdom". So you've lost a potential user. K.I.S.S.

johnnydoebk 10y ago
>> marketing speech >> FOSS developers I don't think it has something to do with FOSS but rather with blockchain developers. Most projects have nice landing pages but very vague messages.
- vertex-four 10y ago
  > Most projects have nice landing pages but very vague messages. It's to cover up the fact that most of them don't actually do anything very new, interesting, or in some cases (esp around Ethereum) even enforceable.
- VMG 10y ago
  Agreed. While you're not paying for using the product by buying a software license, you're often required to buy tokens (get it?) in order to use the product. The developers benefit from the increase in token price, because they often own a lot of those tokens. Not that this is necessarily unethical, but it's good to know the incentives behind this.
  - woodrowbarlow 10y ago
    wouldn't that be considered illegal market manipulation if they were somehow doing the same thing with US currency?
dualogy 10y ago
> Why do so many FOSS developers imitate the worst aspects of the proprietary, commercial software world? Just bubble things. Plus the youthful enthusiasm, I remember emulating and cultivating the hype speak from the late 90s / early 00s as a teen. It'll fade by the time the next gen are rushing in. > FOSS developers > proprietary, commercial software world Do these terms even mean much anymore? "Proprietary" means "our SaaS codebase isn't open-sourced but rest assured it's 80% FOSS on the inside anyway". And "FOSS developers" means "let's put some select libs/snippets of our SaaS on Github, it's zero risk/cost plus potential upside in terms of mindshare/image (and of course potentially genuinely useful to some out there, who aren't looking to (or going to manage to) clone us and hey may even contribute fixes or features)". World has moved on =) in an ironic twist it was MS' FOSS moves the last few months that sealed that perspective for me. (The old m.o. had its charms, but this current m.o. undeniably has evolved to appear much more compelling in many ways for most players)
mathw 10y ago
I don't even have a clue what it does. I would expect some kind of hint after reading two screenfuls of content.
xjay 10y ago
There's the web, and then there's the web of electronic brochures (WEB).
eat_veggies 10y ago
I think it's cool. Not everything has to look like Stallman's website
m12k 10y ago
Most likely you are not the audience - hapless investors wanting to get in on the next bubble are.
sonium 10y ago
The description of the (two) co-founders are 'Cofounder and Thought Leader' and 'Cofounder and Communications & Marketing'. This sounds a lot like they come both from a non-technical background. Maybe this the reason why?
- Hydraulix989 10y ago
  Isn't it a little presumptuous to describe yourself as a "Thought Leader"?

johnnydoebk 10y ago

>> marketing speech >> FOSS developers I don't think it has something to do with FOSS but rather with blockchain developers. Most projects have nice landing pages but very vague messages.

vertex-four 10y ago
> Most projects have nice landing pages but very vague messages. It's to cover up the fact that most of them don't actually do anything very new, interesting, or in some cases (esp around Ethereum) even enforceable.
VMG 10y ago
Agreed. While you're not paying for using the product by buying a software license, you're often required to buy tokens (get it?) in order to use the product. The developers benefit from the increase in token price, because they often own a lot of those tokens. Not that this is necessarily unethical, but it's good to know the incentives behind this.
- woodrowbarlow 10y ago
  wouldn't that be considered illegal market manipulation if they were somehow doing the same thing with US currency?

dualogy 10y ago

> Why do so many FOSS developers imitate the worst aspects of the proprietary, commercial software world? Just bubble things. Plus the youthful enthusiasm, I remember emulating and cultivating the hype speak from the late 90s / early 00s as a teen. It'll fade by the time the next gen are rushing in. > FOSS developers > proprietary, commercial software world Do these terms even mean much anymore? "Proprietary" means "our SaaS codebase isn't open-sourced but rest assured it's 80% FOSS on the inside anyway". And "FOSS developers" means "let's put some select libs/snippets of our SaaS on Github, it's zero risk/cost plus potential upside in terms of mindshare/image (and of course potentially genuinely useful to some out there, who aren't looking to (or going to manage to) clone us and hey may even contribute fixes or features)". World has moved on =) in an ironic twist it was MS' FOSS moves the last few months that sealed that perspective for me. (The old m.o. had its charms, but this current m.o. undeniably has evolved to appear much more compelling in many ways for most players)

mathw 10y ago

I don't even have a clue what it does. I would expect some kind of hint after reading two screenfuls of content.

xjay 10y ago

There's the web, and then there's the web of electronic brochures (WEB).

eat_veggies 10y ago

I think it's cool. Not everything has to look like Stallman's website

m12k 10y ago

Most likely you are not the audience - hapless investors wanting to get in on the next bubble are.

sonium 10y ago

The description of the (two) co-founders are 'Cofounder and Thought Leader' and 'Cofounder and Communications & Marketing'. This sounds a lot like they come both from a non-technical background. Maybe this the reason why?

Hydraulix989 10y ago
Isn't it a little presumptuous to describe yourself as a "Thought Leader"?