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This can be said about any problem in any car, "one of their suppliers f'ed up" because most things in a car are manufactured by suppliers today. Car manufactur

This can be said about any problem in any car, "one of their suppliers f'ed up" because most things in a car are manufactured by suppliers today. Car manufacturers only assemble sub systems from 3rd parties. How comes if Ford f'ed up, it's Ford. If Toyota f'ed up, it's Toyota. If Tesla f'ed up (doors, brakes) it's a supplier?

notatoad 9y ago
Ford and Toyota have recalls on this scale and of this severity every couple months, and nobody notices. Tesla deserves a defence here because if it were any other automaker, the story wouldn't be "ford f'ed up", it wouldn't be news at all. As a fun example, my ford was recalled last year because the windshield wipers might be flammable. Did you read about that in the news?
- jstandard 9y ago
  Tesla doesn't have anywhere near the scale, history or number of product lines to make this a valid comparison. People have been more tolerant of Tesla issues because of attachment to the mission/Elon and their role as early adopters. Now as Tesla moves toward the mainstream greater scrutiny, such as recall notices, should be given to them.
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JumpCrisscross 9y ago
If the issue were the brakes not engaging, sure, I'd blame Tesla. When the issue is "the parking brake may not disengage and then you'll have to call AAA and your ice cream will melt," I'm okay with blaming the supplier.
- ismail-khan 9y ago
  Tesla is still responsible for picking the right supplier & some degree of quality control even on components they didn't manufacture themselves. Perfectly OK to hold them responsible as well.
- kirillzubovsky 9y ago
  I've seen a v-long once from a guy in UK whose breaks had this problem (in retrospect) and he couldn't move his car outside of the parking area; they couldn't even tow it at first, because the towing company didn't know how to get an immovable object out of its space. Granted, from what I understand Tesla paid for everything and fixed his car; it's only his time that was spent on this, but every car breaks down at some point too. Oh, and they were able to eventually move his car by elevating it onto a set of rolling beds, and then rolling it onto a truck that way. It looked pretty funny :)

notatoad 9y ago

Ford and Toyota have recalls on this scale and of this severity every couple months, and nobody notices. Tesla deserves a defence here because if it were any other automaker, the story wouldn't be "ford f'ed up", it wouldn't be news at all. As a fun example, my ford was recalled last year because the windshield wipers might be flammable. Did you read about that in the news?

jstandard 9y ago
Tesla doesn't have anywhere near the scale, history or number of product lines to make this a valid comparison. People have been more tolerant of Tesla issues because of attachment to the mission/Elon and their role as early adopters. Now as Tesla moves toward the mainstream greater scrutiny, such as recall notices, should be given to them.

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JumpCrisscross 9y ago

If the issue were the brakes not engaging, sure, I'd blame Tesla. When the issue is "the parking brake may not disengage and then you'll have to call AAA and your ice cream will melt," I'm okay with blaming the supplier.

ismail-khan 9y ago
Tesla is still responsible for picking the right supplier & some degree of quality control even on components they didn't manufacture themselves. Perfectly OK to hold them responsible as well.
kirillzubovsky 9y ago
I've seen a v-long once from a guy in UK whose breaks had this problem (in retrospect) and he couldn't move his car outside of the parking area; they couldn't even tow it at first, because the towing company didn't know how to get an immovable object out of its space. Granted, from what I understand Tesla paid for everything and fixed his car; it's only his time that was spent on this, but every car breaks down at some point too. Oh, and they were able to eventually move his car by elevating it onto a set of rolling beds, and then rolling it onto a truck that way. It looked pretty funny :)