For independent reasons, I would rather not go into it because the discussion became borderline heated. My perspective was that it was inconsiderate to not give

For independent reasons, I would rather not go into it because the discussion became borderline heated. My perspective was that it was inconsiderate to not give a path for kubernetes logging to work with journald which is now default on Redhat, Ubuntu, Debian and Coreos. I don't say journald should be the only supported format...But it's wasteful to have the pendulum swing the whole other way. The last known proposal is here https://github.com/kubernetes/community/blob/master/contributors/design-proposals/kubelet-cri-logging.md https://github.com/kubernetes/community/blob/master/contribu... You can check the rotation part. Btw, yes I am aware there was increased journald support added in 1.6 . And I'm hoping that more reasonable minds prevail. I get very worried when people say "the format+kubectl cli is more important. we will figure out the mechanics of easy stuff like logrotation later. until then you can use a cronjob. systemd is obviously a monopoly."