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> Other chains (ie: Burger King) have had more significant problems with enforcing franchise standards. Why have Burger King in particular had this problem?

deanmen 9y ago
They meant to put e.g.
- degenerate 9y ago
  This is why I just go with (ex: Burger King) because everyone can understand it. When you have enough ambiguity and misunderstanding of a language/grammar syntax, it's better to avoid it in a public forum.
fraserharris 9y ago
ie -> in example. Burger King is the only example I explicitly recall.
- rockinghigh 9y ago
  ie means id est (that is).
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- toomanybeersies 9y ago
  i.e. -> id est. Usually translated to English as "That is". Implying that subject is the definite case. Stealing from wiktionary: "The three U.S. states on the west coast have mild seasonal variations in temperature (i.e., warm winters and cool summers)." e.g. -> exempli gratia. Usually translated to English as "For example". Implying that the subject is simply one example of many. Stealing from wiktionary again: "Continents (e.g., Asia) contain many large bodies of water."
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- mbrookes 9y ago
  Ah, right, no. "i.e." is an abbreviation for the Latin "id est", meaning "that is". "For example" would be "e.g.", ("exempli gratia" in Latin.) "E.g." is illustrative, whereas "i.e." is exhaustive. I hadn't heard "i.e." expanded to "in example" before - that explains one source of misunderstanding (despite being grammatically incorrect in its own right). Edit: It seems you've since been unfairly downvoted for explaining what you meant. Please folks, don't do that. I asked the question, and @fraserharris answered honestly.
  - xenophonf 9y ago
    I forget where I picked this up, but I use the following to keep them straight: i.e. == in essence e.g. == example given
  - ericleung 9y ago
    I can never remember the Latin, but in my mind, I usually substitute i.e. to mean "in essence" and e.g. as "e.g.xample" to remember which means which.
- vsl 9y ago
  So THAT is why many people get it so wrong. I never understood (as a non-native speaker from a 24h country, I still struggle with pm/am and have to look it up every time, so I get why other non-natives may mix it up, but I'm seeing I.e./e.g. confusion mostly among native English speakers... for whom the Latin origin must be a similar situation I now realize).
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deanmen 9y ago

They meant to put e.g.

degenerate 9y ago
This is why I just go with (ex: Burger King) because everyone can understand it. When you have enough ambiguity and misunderstanding of a language/grammar syntax, it's better to avoid it in a public forum.

fraserharris 9y ago

ie -> in example. Burger King is the only example I explicitly recall.

rockinghigh 9y ago
ie means id est (that is).
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toomanybeersies 9y ago
i.e. -> id est. Usually translated to English as "That is". Implying that subject is the definite case. Stealing from wiktionary: "The three U.S. states on the west coast have mild seasonal variations in temperature (i.e., warm winters and cool summers)." e.g. -> exempli gratia. Usually translated to English as "For example". Implying that the subject is simply one example of many. Stealing from wiktionary again: "Continents (e.g., Asia) contain many large bodies of water."
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mbrookes 9y ago
Ah, right, no. "i.e." is an abbreviation for the Latin "id est", meaning "that is". "For example" would be "e.g.", ("exempli gratia" in Latin.) "E.g." is illustrative, whereas "i.e." is exhaustive. I hadn't heard "i.e." expanded to "in example" before - that explains one source of misunderstanding (despite being grammatically incorrect in its own right). Edit: It seems you've since been unfairly downvoted for explaining what you meant. Please folks, don't do that. I asked the question, and @fraserharris answered honestly.
- xenophonf 9y ago
  I forget where I picked this up, but I use the following to keep them straight: i.e. == in essence e.g. == example given
- ericleung 9y ago
  I can never remember the Latin, but in my mind, I usually substitute i.e. to mean "in essence" and e.g. as "e.g.xample" to remember which means which.
vsl 9y ago
So THAT is why many people get it so wrong. I never understood (as a non-native speaker from a 24h country, I still struggle with pm/am and have to look it up every time, so I get why other non-natives may mix it up, but I'm seeing I.e./e.g. confusion mostly among native English speakers... for whom the Latin origin must be a similar situation I now realize).

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