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It's unfortunate that IE 11 is still in such widespread use compared to Edge. Looks like IE 11 will be the boat anchor for web tech for a couple years at least

It's unfortunate that IE 11 is still in such widespread use compared to Edge. Looks like IE 11 will be the boat anchor for web tech for a couple years at least.

lucasmullens 9y ago
There's a light at the end of the tunnel. Once IE 11 is mostly gone, everyone will be on an 'evergreen' browser that auto updates. Once we're there, new features won't take 10 years to be usable.
- jdhawk 9y ago
  > Once IE 11 is mostly gone Except Mobile.
  - goatlover 9y ago
    And mobile is kind of important.
  - my123 9y ago
    Mobile is Edge-only.
  - flukus 9y ago
    You mean the mobile world doesn't get updates or that IE is somehow relevant in the mobile world?
- vmasto 9y ago
  Unfortunately, I don't think it's fair to call Edge evergreen. Updates to Edge come via OS updates, which can be quite a hassle and many corporate environments might not perform at a regular basis. This article goes into more depth: https://www.scirra.com/blog/173/just-how-evergreen-is-microsoft-edge https://www.scirra.com/blog/173/just-how-evergreen-is-micros...
  - pitaj 9y ago
    Yep. It's truly unfortunate.
  - ygra 9y ago
    Well, Firefox in corporate environments may just as well be on its ESR version, which lags behind by up to a year.
  - flukus 9y ago
    Isn't windows 10 more evergreen as well? I thought IT departments had a lot less control over updates.
  - Vinnl 9y ago
    And the same holds true for Safari (and other browsers) on iOS, I'm afraid. Then again, that probably won't be a matter of decades any more.
- technion 9y ago
  As I said on another thread - the problem with that is that Windows 2016 server launched with IE11. So the flagship server OS for the next several years won't support Edge, which is why I'm sitting in enterprise Citrix deployments in 2107 trying to make IE11 work.
  - rpeden 9y ago
    I hope we don't still have to make IE11 work in 2107, but considering how often some enterprises seem to keep ancient software around, it just might happen. :)
fooey 9y ago
The market share for Edge is amazingly bad, and MS has basically zero usage on mobile. http://caniuse.com/usage-table http://caniuse.com/usage-table

It's unfortunate that IE 11 is still in such widespread use compared to Edge. Looks like IE 11 will be the boat anchor for web tech for a couple years at least.

lucasmullens 9y ago

There's a light at the end of the tunnel. Once IE 11 is mostly gone, everyone will be on an 'evergreen' browser that auto updates. Once we're there, new features won't take 10 years to be usable.

jdhawk 9y ago
> Once IE 11 is mostly gone Except Mobile.
- goatlover 9y ago
  And mobile is kind of important.
- my123 9y ago
  Mobile is Edge-only.
- flukus 9y ago
  You mean the mobile world doesn't get updates or that IE is somehow relevant in the mobile world?
vmasto 9y ago
Unfortunately, I don't think it's fair to call Edge evergreen. Updates to Edge come via OS updates, which can be quite a hassle and many corporate environments might not perform at a regular basis. This article goes into more depth: https://www.scirra.com/blog/173/just-how-evergreen-is-microsoft-edge https://www.scirra.com/blog/173/just-how-evergreen-is-micros...
- pitaj 9y ago
  Yep. It's truly unfortunate.
- ygra 9y ago
  Well, Firefox in corporate environments may just as well be on its ESR version, which lags behind by up to a year.
- flukus 9y ago
  Isn't windows 10 more evergreen as well? I thought IT departments had a lot less control over updates.
- Vinnl 9y ago
  And the same holds true for Safari (and other browsers) on iOS, I'm afraid. Then again, that probably won't be a matter of decades any more.
technion 9y ago
As I said on another thread - the problem with that is that Windows 2016 server launched with IE11. So the flagship server OS for the next several years won't support Edge, which is why I'm sitting in enterprise Citrix deployments in 2107 trying to make IE11 work.
- rpeden 9y ago
  I hope we don't still have to make IE11 work in 2107, but considering how often some enterprises seem to keep ancient software around, it just might happen. :)

fooey 9y ago

The market share for Edge is amazingly bad, and MS has basically zero usage on mobile. http://caniuse.com/usage-table http://caniuse.com/usage-table