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I'm reminded of a Torvalds quote from about a decade ago: > This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you

• ajross 9y ago
  For clarity, the feature isn't removed. You open the developer console (it has like nine keys bound to do this, F12 is the easiest), select the "security" tab, then hit the "view certificate" button. I buy that this isn't as easy as the old mechanism (click on the TLS lock icon next to the URL) but...
  • pasbesoin 9y ago
    But the point was/is to get "normal" users to pay attention. This just buries those details further away. In the last few years, I've been somewhat pleasantly surprised at how much more attention my non-tech friends and acquaintances are paying to the topic of security. No, they don't have it all figured out. But they are aware, and they are demonstrating some "pause and check". How nice it would be to be able to point them to an obvious and straight-forward representation/presentation of the cert chain. Instead, we get continued fussing with the "lock UI" and further and further hiding away of the relevant details. Boo.
  • mpclark 9y ago
    Didn't know about F12 - thanks for the tip!
  • aargh_aargh 9y ago
    What are the other keys? I know about F12, but I have it mapped to something else. I'm using Gnome.
    • ajross 9y ago
      Any of Ctrl-Shift-{c,i,j} will pop up various tabs of the developer tools. There may be others I'm not aware of.