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This might not be a popular opinion here (so please reply too if you intend to downvote me), and I might be biased because I just came back from F8 Dev Conferen
by WikipediasBad 9y ago
This might not be a popular opinion here (so please reply too if you intend to downvote me), and I might be biased because I just came back from F8 Dev Conference yesterday, but I don't think the reason Facebook beats a lot of rivals is network effects, it's because of Zuckerberg. He runs a very tight but organized ship. Let's be real, before facebook and all this stuff, mySpace had incredible amount of network effect and market share for those days, as did friendster (for that era of technology). Twitter had a network effect (albeit, an interest graph not a direct network of friends) and it is not doing well at all, even in areas where interest graph network effects should come in and dominate. You get my idea. I might be biased here because I got a small few minutes to converse with Zuckerberg at F8, but I think calling things simply "the network effect" and being done with it as to why facebook is so successful is a bit disingenuous, it's network effect + right leadership (aka Zuckerberg and to a lesser extent Sheryl). A lot of companies had network effects before facebook and didn't manage their advantage properly. Mark seems to be the overseer of all decisions at facebook and so far almost everything (except for crushing Snap) has worked flawlessly. It remains to be seen what happens with Snapchat.
- a_imho 9y agoFacebook Work was marketed as the best thing since sliced bread but I yet to see it making any waves for example.
- WikipediasBad 9y agoActually you're right. I can see this being one of facebook's bigger high profile flops. After talking to the "Facebook at Work" team at F8 (very very nice people), I thought that they might be in for a rougher time getting their corporate product to compete. According to what I understood, the project is a satellite product being developed in the UK offsite from facebook's HQ in Menlo (and as a result absent from the real leadership's radar). It seems like it will be difficult for them to really penetrate into the non-consumer space without direct line of leadership from upper management like Zuckerberg. This product seems more of an experimental "throw at the wall" and see if it could potentially stick. I am going to agree with you here and say likely no.
- lucasmullens 9y agoWhat company only has successes? Seems pointless to try to extrapolate from a single failure.
- sAbakumoff 9y agoWasn't Facebook paper the failure?
- parthdesai 9y agoFacebook has tried a lot to copy snapchat, even released atleast couple of apps that i'm aware of but failed. Eventually they started to copy features of snapchat in Instagram, Whatsapp, messenger and facebook app. Heck now you can send snaps in Instagram. Not stories, snaps. that is fucked
- JBReefer 9y agoA few large companies are moving to it, but don't forget how long the corporate sales cycle is for this type of thing. We'll only know if it's a flop in 3-4 years.
- wcfields 9y agoIt's currently free for early sign-ups (like my company), and then they've moved the payment timeline to now October > Billing will start on October 1, 2017, with the first bill issued on November 1, 2017. We probably won't continue even at $2/user/mo, only about ~10 people use it and mostly just to post industry stories and/or press writings about our company. For it to be viable (for us), they need to add in meetings a-la Google Hangouts, clone Slack, encourage employees to "Go Live" at events we do.
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