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> Nothing works out of the box, especially if you are trying to make two plugins work nicely with each other. Indeed, but it doesn't really matter since the de

> Nothing works out of the box, especially if you are trying to make two plugins work nicely with each other. Indeed, but it doesn't really matter since the default experience in VSCode or IntelliJ or Xcode or any other IDE or editor doesn't work for me out of the box either. I have to change things anyways, and I can't change VSCode or IntelliJ or Xcode to fit my liking, but I've been able to change tmux+vim to it, although it could be even better. > If you want IDE like features i.e Autocomplete than you have to spend days to make it work and even after that it doesn't work like other "GUI" editors. For stuff like Go, Rust, Elixir, Python and so on, it works fine with when just installing the default "brand" plugin. Taking python as an example: even though "intellisense" in vim is worse than in pycharm, the rest of pycharm is so much worse than tmux+vim. "Intellisense" not being 100% in tmux+vim is not a dealbreaker for me at all. I can get by without "intellisense". But pycharm is so much worse for everything else than "intellisense", from basic editing to opening files to running shell commands and everything else I use all the time, which is a deal-breaker for me. For something like iOS+Mac development where I feel like I can't work without proper "intellisense", I do use Xcode. > + Terminal interface is very limiting to have nice plugins... Indeed, but still, even though tmux+vim sucks on some points because it's text-based, it doesn't suck enough to not be usable, and all these other editors and IDEs like IntelliJ, xcode, netbeans, sublimetext, vscode, atom and so on complete sucks for all the important things I need, which is a deal-breaker.

maccard 9y ago
> Indeed, but it doesn't really matter since the default experience in VSCode or IntelliJ or Xcode or any other IDE or editor doesn't work for me out of the box either. I have to change things anyways, and I can't change VSCode or IntelliJ or Xcode to fit my liking, but I've been able to change tmux+vim to it, although it could be even better. I disagree. The default settings of Visual studio work perfectly fine for me. As an added advantage, I can use other developers in my companies workstations to show them something quickly if I need > For stuff like Go, Rust, Elixir, Python and so on, it works fine with when just installing the default "brand" plugin. and so on? I'm a C++ developer. Setting up C++ autocomplete is anything but straightforward in vim and emacs
- fredsir 9y ago
  > I disagree. The default settings of Visual studio work perfectly fine for me. That's lucky for you, but unfortunately, it's not the case for me at all. > As an added advantage, I can use other developers in my companies workstations to show them something quickly if I need I might be using other peoples computers 10 hours a year, but I'm using my own maybe as much as 2200 hours a year. It doesn't seem logical to take the first scenario into account when deciding whether to customise ones setup or not, but it's indeed a nice bonus if ones optimal setup is the default one that every other developer is using too. > and so on? I'm a C++ developer. Setting up C++ autocomplete is anything but straightforward in vim and emacs I don't use C++ anymore, but 7 years back when I did, it worked good enough for my use case, and the problem with other IDEs and editors were the same back then as it is now, where they were actually hindering my work, which a less than perfect "intellisense" doesn't at all. YMMV.
  - radix07 9y ago
    Have you actually tried to get YouCompleteMe[1] to work for C/C++ autocomplete? It's a huge PIA. Autocomplete just works in VSCode and many other IDEs once you point them at the right directory. https://github.com/Valloric/YouCompleteMe https://github.com/Valloric/YouCompleteMe
    - Accacin 9y ago
      I'm a front end web dev who decided to learn C (the other week actually). Took about 5 minutes to download and install YouCompleteMe.. What problems did you have? The one problem I had was that I had to use the system version of clang as I'm using Arch.
      - radix07 9y ago
        Basically I am not able to compile my particular codebase in clang or gcc too easily since it's an embedded system. But many other IDEs have no problem inferring autocompletion without requiring compilation. YouCompleteMe itself was a bit of an issue as I have to develop in Windows and it's not quite as well supported.

maccard 9y ago

> Indeed, but it doesn't really matter since the default experience in VSCode or IntelliJ or Xcode or any other IDE or editor doesn't work for me out of the box either. I have to change things anyways, and I can't change VSCode or IntelliJ or Xcode to fit my liking, but I've been able to change tmux+vim to it, although it could be even better. I disagree. The default settings of Visual studio work perfectly fine for me. As an added advantage, I can use other developers in my companies workstations to show them something quickly if I need > For stuff like Go, Rust, Elixir, Python and so on, it works fine with when just installing the default "brand" plugin. and so on? I'm a C++ developer. Setting up C++ autocomplete is anything but straightforward in vim and emacs

fredsir 9y ago
> I disagree. The default settings of Visual studio work perfectly fine for me. That's lucky for you, but unfortunately, it's not the case for me at all. > As an added advantage, I can use other developers in my companies workstations to show them something quickly if I need I might be using other peoples computers 10 hours a year, but I'm using my own maybe as much as 2200 hours a year. It doesn't seem logical to take the first scenario into account when deciding whether to customise ones setup or not, but it's indeed a nice bonus if ones optimal setup is the default one that every other developer is using too. > and so on? I'm a C++ developer. Setting up C++ autocomplete is anything but straightforward in vim and emacs I don't use C++ anymore, but 7 years back when I did, it worked good enough for my use case, and the problem with other IDEs and editors were the same back then as it is now, where they were actually hindering my work, which a less than perfect "intellisense" doesn't at all. YMMV.
- radix07 9y ago
  Have you actually tried to get YouCompleteMe[1] to work for C/C++ autocomplete? It's a huge PIA. Autocomplete just works in VSCode and many other IDEs once you point them at the right directory. https://github.com/Valloric/YouCompleteMe https://github.com/Valloric/YouCompleteMe
  - Accacin 9y ago
    I'm a front end web dev who decided to learn C (the other week actually). Took about 5 minutes to download and install YouCompleteMe.. What problems did you have? The one problem I had was that I had to use the system version of clang as I'm using Arch.
    - radix07 9y ago
      Basically I am not able to compile my particular codebase in clang or gcc too easily since it's an embedded system. But many other IDEs have no problem inferring autocompletion without requiring compilation. YouCompleteMe itself was a bit of an issue as I have to develop in Windows and it's not quite as well supported.