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The "build quality" means it looks nice, but it sure isn't durable. If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine. If you drop an Apple, it's also dead.

The "build quality" means it looks nice, but it sure isn't durable. If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine. If you drop an Apple, it's also dead. Thinkpads can survive a hell of a lot more abuse.

jhasse 10y ago
Definitely agree on "If you drop an Apple, it's also dead.", but "If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine." hasn't been true for me: Spilled a whole glass of water on my MBA which was running and it immediately turned off. After drying it on the heater for half a day it turned back on without any problems or damage.
- Hydraulix989 10y ago
  Check out Louis Rossmann's Apple repair channel on YouTube. The vast majority of boards he repairs are broken because of liquid damage (he does actual board-level repair using microsoldering, unlike Apple which merely replaces everything). It's definitely a huge problem.
  - jhasse 10y ago
    But isn't this a problem for nearly all laptops?
    - Hydraulix989 10y ago
      Mythbusted: "It's a more durable laptop because it's made of aluminum" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0
      - jhasse 10y ago
        What does this have to do with liquid damage? (Sorry can't watch the video right now because I'm on mobile data)
ruben_varnish 10y ago
Every time a friend or colleague asks why I use "that" I simply thrown my laptop to the floor, pick it up and continue working on it. Then I ask them to try the same with their Apple laptop. That normally makes them never ask such questions again. I learned that from an IBM (and later a Lenovo) sales person when presenting the X series. It's designed and built to tolerate real use. And some abuse :-)
- shurcooL 10y ago
  People's needs and preferences differ. I've used laptops for the last 10-15 years, often 8+ hours a day. I have not once dropped a laptop during those years. I'm completely okay with having a laptop that disintegrates when dropped and is better in other ways (thinner, lighter, longer battery life) as a result of not focusing on resistance to drops.
  - vbezhenar 10y ago
    I guess it depends on your laptop. I dropped Macbook once (it was closed and there was a big scratch on case), but otherwise I'm very careful with it. I didn't drop my iPhone either. But when I owned old indestructible Nokia phone, I dropped it few times a week, just because I didn't really care. If I would own indestructible laptop, I might drop it as well sometimes. If I'm laying on bed with laptop and I want to sleep, I have to carefully position laptop on the floor. But I would happily threw it away, if I could, it would be so much easier.

jhasse 10y ago

Definitely agree on "If you drop an Apple, it's also dead.", but "If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine." hasn't been true for me: Spilled a whole glass of water on my MBA which was running and it immediately turned off. After drying it on the heater for half a day it turned back on without any problems or damage.

Hydraulix989 10y ago
Check out Louis Rossmann's Apple repair channel on YouTube. The vast majority of boards he repairs are broken because of liquid damage (he does actual board-level repair using microsoldering, unlike Apple which merely replaces everything). It's definitely a huge problem.
- jhasse 10y ago
  But isn't this a problem for nearly all laptops?
  - Hydraulix989 10y ago
    Mythbusted: "It's a more durable laptop because it's made of aluminum" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0
    - jhasse 10y ago
      What does this have to do with liquid damage? (Sorry can't watch the video right now because I'm on mobile data)

ruben_varnish 10y ago

Every time a friend or colleague asks why I use "that" I simply thrown my laptop to the floor, pick it up and continue working on it. Then I ask them to try the same with their Apple laptop. That normally makes them never ask such questions again. I learned that from an IBM (and later a Lenovo) sales person when presenting the X series. It's designed and built to tolerate real use. And some abuse :-)

shurcooL 10y ago
People's needs and preferences differ. I've used laptops for the last 10-15 years, often 8+ hours a day. I have not once dropped a laptop during those years. I'm completely okay with having a laptop that disintegrates when dropped and is better in other ways (thinner, lighter, longer battery life) as a result of not focusing on resistance to drops.
- vbezhenar 10y ago
  I guess it depends on your laptop. I dropped Macbook once (it was closed and there was a big scratch on case), but otherwise I'm very careful with it. I didn't drop my iPhone either. But when I owned old indestructible Nokia phone, I dropped it few times a week, just because I didn't really care. If I would own indestructible laptop, I might drop it as well sometimes. If I'm laying on bed with laptop and I want to sleep, I have to carefully position laptop on the floor. But I would happily threw it away, if I could, it would be so much easier.