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Neovim got a great builtin terminal emulator so I can just treat it like any other vim panes.

hultner 9y ago
Last time I gave it a serious try I remember running in to a few oddities making me resort to keep using normal panes. Don't know if it's improved recently or if I were unlucky.
hashkb 9y ago
Normal panes are still nice in that they can be "far" from (n)vim; also sometimes I crash the editor and I wouldn't want my shells to vaporize.
omurphy27 9y ago
This. I tried tmux but it required too much configuration, whereas Neovim just used my current terminal, already configured exactly the way I wanted it. I had to make a few small tweaks, like making it easier to switch between VIM and terminal panes, but overall I'm very happy with the Neovim + terminal mode setup.
- danieldk 9y ago
  One of the attractions of tmux is that you can attach/detach sessions in arbitrary terminals, which is incredibly handy when working remotely. Does Neovim provide this functionality?
  - placeybordeaux 9y ago
    Nope, abduco adds it pretty seemlessly without getting in the way, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to handle mouse events which I use occasionally with vim.
    - gsf 9y ago
      I've been using abduco and neovim as my dev environment for the past month or so and am very happy with the setup. I don't rely on mouse events so didn't notice that missing. Whenever I log in local or remote I start a new session or attach to the existing one with `abduco -A nvim nvim`.
      - placeybordeaux 9y ago
        It's a really pretty awesome set up, but when I am primarily in terminal mode and have a lot of scroll back I want to yank from I frequently will reach for my mouse. Lack of mouse support has stopped me from using abduco consistently. Seems like some solid software other than that, I'm glad there's an option that interferes so minimally.
  - alspore 9y ago
    I'm not sure if Neovim directly provides this functionality, though Neovim can be run inside a tmux session, and tmux sessions can run inside the Neovim terminal.
erikb 9y ago
How is the current status of Neovim? I think the last time I heard about was 3+ years ago.
- soperj 9y ago
  It's great. I use it as my day to day. Sane defaults, I barely have anything in my vimrc.
wodenokoto 9y ago
Is neovim mature enough for day to day work? Do you know any good beginners guide?
- matzy 9y ago
  It's seamless. I've been using it for the past 6 months for almost all of my coding. The windows build is brand new and still has some problems, but assuming you're using *nix/mac, you won't have any issues. Honestly the GitHub repo explains about everything. I check in on r/neovim, as the main contributor posts there often and helps people with problems/questions (I mostly just like reading about the new stuff their doing on the subreddit).
z1mm32m4n 9y ago
The last time I looked at the terminal emulator built into Neovim the keybindings were terrible. What keys do you personally use for navigating in and out of TERMINAL buffers?
- red2awn 9y ago
  I am using `jk` to switch to normal mode, <space>H/J/K/L to move around. Didn't have any problem with that.
- gsf 9y ago
  I use the bindings suggested in the Input section at https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim_terminal_emulator.html https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim_terminal_emulator.html. Took a little getting used to but now I quite like them.

Last time I gave it a serious try I remember running in to a few oddities making me resort to keep using normal panes. Don't know if it's improved recently or if I were unlucky.

hashkb 9y ago

Normal panes are still nice in that they can be "far" from (n)vim; also sometimes I crash the editor and I wouldn't want my shells to vaporize.

omurphy27 9y ago

This. I tried tmux but it required too much configuration, whereas Neovim just used my current terminal, already configured exactly the way I wanted it. I had to make a few small tweaks, like making it easier to switch between VIM and terminal panes, but overall I'm very happy with the Neovim + terminal mode setup.

danieldk 9y ago
One of the attractions of tmux is that you can attach/detach sessions in arbitrary terminals, which is incredibly handy when working remotely. Does Neovim provide this functionality?
- placeybordeaux 9y ago
  Nope, abduco adds it pretty seemlessly without getting in the way, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to handle mouse events which I use occasionally with vim.
  - gsf 9y ago
    I've been using abduco and neovim as my dev environment for the past month or so and am very happy with the setup. I don't rely on mouse events so didn't notice that missing. Whenever I log in local or remote I start a new session or attach to the existing one with `abduco -A nvim nvim`.
    - placeybordeaux 9y ago
      It's a really pretty awesome set up, but when I am primarily in terminal mode and have a lot of scroll back I want to yank from I frequently will reach for my mouse. Lack of mouse support has stopped me from using abduco consistently. Seems like some solid software other than that, I'm glad there's an option that interferes so minimally.
- alspore 9y ago
  I'm not sure if Neovim directly provides this functionality, though Neovim can be run inside a tmux session, and tmux sessions can run inside the Neovim terminal.

erikb 9y ago

How is the current status of Neovim? I think the last time I heard about was 3+ years ago.

soperj 9y ago
It's great. I use it as my day to day. Sane defaults, I barely have anything in my vimrc.

wodenokoto 9y ago

Is neovim mature enough for day to day work? Do you know any good beginners guide?

matzy 9y ago
It's seamless. I've been using it for the past 6 months for almost all of my coding. The windows build is brand new and still has some problems, but assuming you're using *nix/mac, you won't have any issues. Honestly the GitHub repo explains about everything. I check in on r/neovim, as the main contributor posts there often and helps people with problems/questions (I mostly just like reading about the new stuff their doing on the subreddit).

z1mm32m4n 9y ago

The last time I looked at the terminal emulator built into Neovim the keybindings were terrible. What keys do you personally use for navigating in and out of TERMINAL buffers?

red2awn 9y ago
I am using `jk` to switch to normal mode, <space>H/J/K/L to move around. Didn't have any problem with that.
gsf 9y ago
I use the bindings suggested in the Input section at https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim_terminal_emulator.html https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim_terminal_emulator.html. Took a little getting used to but now I quite like them.