4 ms·

Apple build overpriced low-end perf laptops with high build quality, I'd rather have performance at a way lower price.

by d0vs 9y ago

johnzim 9y ago
Problem is: you're already pretty well catered to I should imagine. That's literally 90% of the OEM Laptop market competition.
mafro 9y ago
Downvoted: opinion presented as fact
- d0vs 9y ago
  Compare the cheapest Mac ($1000) to an $800 ASUS: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.amazon.com/i5-6300HQ-keyboard-Microsoft-signature-Anti-Glare/dp/B01LXCBXQO/ https://www.amazon.com/i5-6300HQ-keyboard-Microsoft-signatur... The ASUS has: - a larger screen - a better CPU - a better GPU - as much memory - more storage
  - H4CK3RM4N 9y ago
    The MacBook Air is an outdated product. The closest real comparison is the MacBook Pro to the Surface Pro, in which case the MacBook is better at every price tier(expect for the touchscreen which is totally useful).
    - adrianN 9y ago
      ...an outdated product for $1k.
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
  - sanswork 9y ago
    -disappointing screen quality(size isn't the only thing that matters) -twice the weight -1/4th the battery hours -one of the worst touch pads around
  - Lio 9y ago
    That's maybe not a great comparison, it's a different class of product with worse battery life and much heavier. The MacBook Air has been optimised for a different use case.
- nommm-nommm 9y ago
  http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/4/12373776/2012-macbook-pro-still-alive-not-dead-why http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/4/12373776/2012-macbook-pro-s... http://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-disgracefully-outdated-mac-lineup-is-killing-sales/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-disgracefully-outdated-m...
whazor 9y ago
I don't believe that I actually want improved performance. I just want a smooth laptop that is thin, has long during battery life, and is price competitive. Essentially a MacBook at a reasonable price.
Hydraulix989 9y ago
The "build quality" means it looks nice, but it sure isn't durable. If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine. If you drop an Apple, it's also dead. Thinkpads can survive a hell of a lot more abuse.
- jhasse 9y ago
  Definitely agree on "If you drop an Apple, it's also dead.", but "If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine." hasn't been true for me: Spilled a whole glass of water on my MBA which was running and it immediately turned off. After drying it on the heater for half a day it turned back on without any problems or damage.
  - Hydraulix989 9y ago
    Check out Louis Rossmann's Apple repair channel on YouTube. The vast majority of boards he repairs are broken because of liquid damage (he does actual board-level repair using microsoldering, unlike Apple which merely replaces everything). It's definitely a huge problem.
    - jhasse 9y ago
      But isn't this a problem for nearly all laptops?
      - Hydraulix989 9y ago
        Mythbusted: "It's a more durable laptop because it's made of aluminum" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0
        jhasse 9y ago
        What does this have to do with liquid damage? (Sorry can't watch the video right now because I'm on mobile data)
- 9y ago

Apple build overpriced low-end perf laptops with high build quality, I'd rather have performance at a way lower price.

by d0vs 9y ago

Apple build overpriced low-end perf laptops with high build quality, I'd rather have performance at a way lower price.

Problem is: you're already pretty well catered to I should imagine. That's literally 90% of the OEM Laptop market competition.

mafro 9y ago

Downvoted: opinion presented as fact

d0vs 9y ago
Compare the cheapest Mac ($1000) to an $800 ASUS: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.amazon.com/i5-6300HQ-keyboard-Microsoft-signature-Anti-Glare/dp/B01LXCBXQO/ https://www.amazon.com/i5-6300HQ-keyboard-Microsoft-signatur... The ASUS has: - a larger screen - a better CPU - a better GPU - as much memory - more storage
- H4CK3RM4N 9y ago
  The MacBook Air is an outdated product. The closest real comparison is the MacBook Pro to the Surface Pro, in which case the MacBook is better at every price tier(expect for the touchscreen which is totally useful).
  - adrianN 9y ago
    ...an outdated product for $1k.
  - deleted 9y ago
    [deleted]
- sanswork 9y ago
  -disappointing screen quality(size isn't the only thing that matters) -twice the weight -1/4th the battery hours -one of the worst touch pads around
- Lio 9y ago
  That's maybe not a great comparison, it's a different class of product with worse battery life and much heavier. The MacBook Air has been optimised for a different use case.
nommm-nommm 9y ago
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/4/12373776/2012-macbook-pro-still-alive-not-dead-why http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/4/12373776/2012-macbook-pro-s... http://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-disgracefully-outdated-mac-lineup-is-killing-sales/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-disgracefully-outdated-m...

whazor 9y ago

I don't believe that I actually want improved performance. I just want a smooth laptop that is thin, has long during battery life, and is price competitive. Essentially a MacBook at a reasonable price.

Hydraulix989 9y ago

The "build quality" means it looks nice, but it sure isn't durable. If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine. If you drop an Apple, it's also dead. Thinkpads can survive a hell of a lot more abuse.

jhasse 9y ago
Definitely agree on "If you drop an Apple, it's also dead.", but "If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine." hasn't been true for me: Spilled a whole glass of water on my MBA which was running and it immediately turned off. After drying it on the heater for half a day it turned back on without any problems or damage.
- Hydraulix989 9y ago
  Check out Louis Rossmann's Apple repair channel on YouTube. The vast majority of boards he repairs are broken because of liquid damage (he does actual board-level repair using microsoldering, unlike Apple which merely replaces everything). It's definitely a huge problem.
  - jhasse 9y ago
    But isn't this a problem for nearly all laptops?
    - Hydraulix989 9y ago
      Mythbusted: "It's a more durable laptop because it's made of aluminum" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7XSckjRPo0
      - jhasse 9y ago
        What does this have to do with liquid damage? (Sorry can't watch the video right now because I'm on mobile data)
9y ago