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While many Indians seeking employment abroad are impacted a lot by these changes, I don't think the sentiment behind these changes has much to do with Indian pe

While many Indians seeking employment abroad are impacted a lot by these changes, I don't think the sentiment behind these changes has much to do with Indian people per se. There's a global backlash against too much immigration in general. Indians are just caught in the mix.

posguy 10y ago
People are tired of the corporate owned politicians allowing companies to run roughshod over the laws, morals & expectations of society. This is expressed in many ways, from xenophobia to the rise of Bernie Sanders & Donald Trump. People don't want another corporate owned shill like either of the Clintons, both Bushes, and Obama, and I'd wager that Obama knew this in 2008, hence why he made sure his moderately grassroots organization was put out to pasture safely. We need to stop the union busting, bring back workers rights, prosecute Walmart & T-Mobile for their union response teams (where most potentially "infected" employees are fired), and fight for a better future. I think we should open our borders, but when it comes to employment we should strive to avoid what has happened in Canada, where low cost workers from overseas work at every single Tim Hortons.
- sanswork 10y ago
  If they didn't want a corporate owned shill why did they elect a corporate shill? >where low cost workers from overseas work at every single Tim Hortons. This isn't reality I think you need to check your information sources.
  - JetSpiegel 10y ago
    Trump shills for himself, while the others are much more nebulous.
    - pimmen89 10y ago
      We have to take it on faith because we have no tax returns to check who he owns money too.
  - empressplay 10y ago
    The Canadian government has since cracked down on handing out visas for fast food workers, but in 2014 it was a big deal http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Hortons+McDonald+face+criticism+over+foreign+worker+program/9768838/story.html http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Hortons+McDonald+face+criti...
- bmon 10y ago
  This is satire right? I'm struggling to see how obama rates as corporate shill while trump is somehow an angel...
  - LukaEn 9y ago
    People may view them as such. Trump fans seem to think of him as a anti establishment figure.
  - posguy 9y ago
    Trump is no angel, and I sincerely hope you did not take my comment that way. I hate Trump, he is a myopic, self-centered late stage capitalist that can't handle basic logic. That being said Obama was no angel, TPP, SOPA & PIPA were all corporatist bills he fought for alongside Keystone XL, and he was happy to feed the military industrial complex while warmongering overseas while letting the drug wars continue in the US. Why waste our resources on stupid wars and bad policies that most Americans dislike?
toomanybeersies 10y ago
I disagree. At least here in New Zealand, there's a subtle racist undertone, you never hear people complaining about all the Europeans arriving. People conveniently ignore the fact that we receive as many immigrants from Europe as from Asia (including India but excluding the Middle East).
- letitgo12345 9y ago
  Not denying racist undertones. But I think then a more accurate headline would be "Non-white techies not wanted" rather than just Indian. But for example, backlash in US is because of illegal hispanic immigration (there's some anti-Indian H1B related stuff as well tho some of the anger at H1B is not without reason). In the UK it's fear of non-white and EU immigration (ex. the polish plumber stereotype). In France and most of Europe, it's fear of Muslim immigration. In all cases, as far as I can tell, it's low skilled mass immigration that's driving the anxiety. So I think the causes and far more complex and it's problematic to think of it as just an anti-Indian techie backlash.
Theodores 10y ago
In the UK we have had a 'Polish plumber' stereotype develop over the last decade or so. Basically, if you want your plumbing or building done properly then you really want the 'Polish plumber' and not the British guy. It is commonly understood that the Pole has the work ethic, the Brit from the estate down the road does not. I think that parallel to the 'Polish plumber' we had the 'Indian call center' stereotype happen. The call to the call center was a horrific thing, thank goodness that off-shore madness came to an end. Along the way I think a lot of things were tarnished, any work with an Indian company would have overtones of the call center nightmare years.

posguy 10y ago

People are tired of the corporate owned politicians allowing companies to run roughshod over the laws, morals & expectations of society. This is expressed in many ways, from xenophobia to the rise of Bernie Sanders & Donald Trump. People don't want another corporate owned shill like either of the Clintons, both Bushes, and Obama, and I'd wager that Obama knew this in 2008, hence why he made sure his moderately grassroots organization was put out to pasture safely. We need to stop the union busting, bring back workers rights, prosecute Walmart & T-Mobile for their union response teams (where most potentially "infected" employees are fired), and fight for a better future. I think we should open our borders, but when it comes to employment we should strive to avoid what has happened in Canada, where low cost workers from overseas work at every single Tim Hortons.

sanswork 10y ago
If they didn't want a corporate owned shill why did they elect a corporate shill? >where low cost workers from overseas work at every single Tim Hortons. This isn't reality I think you need to check your information sources.
- JetSpiegel 10y ago
  Trump shills for himself, while the others are much more nebulous.
  - pimmen89 10y ago
    We have to take it on faith because we have no tax returns to check who he owns money too.
- empressplay 10y ago
  The Canadian government has since cracked down on handing out visas for fast food workers, but in 2014 it was a big deal http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Hortons+McDonald+face+criticism+over+foreign+worker+program/9768838/story.html http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Hortons+McDonald+face+criti...
bmon 10y ago
This is satire right? I'm struggling to see how obama rates as corporate shill while trump is somehow an angel...
- LukaEn 9y ago
  People may view them as such. Trump fans seem to think of him as a anti establishment figure.
- posguy 9y ago
  Trump is no angel, and I sincerely hope you did not take my comment that way. I hate Trump, he is a myopic, self-centered late stage capitalist that can't handle basic logic. That being said Obama was no angel, TPP, SOPA & PIPA were all corporatist bills he fought for alongside Keystone XL, and he was happy to feed the military industrial complex while warmongering overseas while letting the drug wars continue in the US. Why waste our resources on stupid wars and bad policies that most Americans dislike?

toomanybeersies 10y ago

I disagree. At least here in New Zealand, there's a subtle racist undertone, you never hear people complaining about all the Europeans arriving. People conveniently ignore the fact that we receive as many immigrants from Europe as from Asia (including India but excluding the Middle East).

letitgo12345 9y ago
Not denying racist undertones. But I think then a more accurate headline would be "Non-white techies not wanted" rather than just Indian. But for example, backlash in US is because of illegal hispanic immigration (there's some anti-Indian H1B related stuff as well tho some of the anger at H1B is not without reason). In the UK it's fear of non-white and EU immigration (ex. the polish plumber stereotype). In France and most of Europe, it's fear of Muslim immigration. In all cases, as far as I can tell, it's low skilled mass immigration that's driving the anxiety. So I think the causes and far more complex and it's problematic to think of it as just an anti-Indian techie backlash.

Theodores 10y ago

In the UK we have had a 'Polish plumber' stereotype develop over the last decade or so. Basically, if you want your plumbing or building done properly then you really want the 'Polish plumber' and not the British guy. It is commonly understood that the Pole has the work ethic, the Brit from the estate down the road does not. I think that parallel to the 'Polish plumber' we had the 'Indian call center' stereotype happen. The call to the call center was a horrific thing, thank goodness that off-shore madness came to an end. Along the way I think a lot of things were tarnished, any work with an Indian company would have overtones of the call center nightmare years.