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Chill breh, a lot of devs in SV were college fratboys. I don't see anything wrong with their vernacular leaking into development. You act like being in a frat i

Chill breh, a lot of devs in SV were college fratboys. I don't see anything wrong with their vernacular leaking into development. You act like being in a frat is an insult. I don't think people should have to stick to any "business speak" when working on open source software. You're doing it for fun, and for free, who cares?

CrystalLangUser 9y ago
Because 1) it's seen as juvenile at best and 2) seen as off-putting towards non-bro people (specifically, women) who aren't in the "in-group". It has nothing to do with insulting frats, just that particular language which is "frat-ish". Does this matter in personal open-source projects? Not really, forking is a thing. When working with others / at a job, sure.
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- Thisplacesucks1 9y ago
  You sound like a loser
- throwasehasdwi 9y ago
  > seen as off-putting towards non-bro people (specifically, women) who aren't in the "in-group" Have you talked to anyone in a sorority? Its a fraternity for females and they share the same speech quirks. >. It has nothing to do with insulting frats, just that particular language which is "frat-ish". That's nice, do you also take offense to things like ebonics because they seem "black-ish"? I think you're being unintentionally insensitive because you're blind to your own prejudice
  - CrystalLangUser 9y ago
    I don't disagree with you, I'm just stating why people make those statements. I would go even further than just frats/sorities, that type language isn't uncommon with college aged people. I'm not sure what you mean by your last statement. All I was saying is that I'm not trying to insult frats, it's just this language is associated with frats and its how people describe it. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, different groups will always have dialectical quirks like that.
- nathan_f77 9y ago
  I don't think there's an "in-group" of frat-bro programmers who actually talk like this in real life. Everyone I've met has just been doing it as a joke. At least, this seems very common in the Ruby/Rails community. There's a whole ton of weird gem names, and people just being silly in general [1]. And it's not a recent [2] thing [3], by any means. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbda1PpQmAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbda1PpQmAk [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowsay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowsay [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Text_Coffee_Pot_Control_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Text_Coffee_Pot_Control_... (P.S. TIL about `$ fortune | cowsay -f head-in`. Hahaha I hadn't seen that before.)
  - CrystalLangUser 9y ago
    I don't think it's an IRL issue really either. Recently there was that uber article. But in general I don't really see it or it's usually exaggerated. People have been making jokes since the beginning of time.
debaserab2 9y ago
Sure, put whatever you want in your README's. I don't care if that's the impression you want your projects to have. You're not offending me, I just have to hold my nose when someone feels the need to do the brogrammer speak thing. It's in the same category as reddit's "the narwahl bacons at midnight" crap that was all over that site years ago to me. I just find it nauseating.

CrystalLangUser 9y ago

Because 1) it's seen as juvenile at best and 2) seen as off-putting towards non-bro people (specifically, women) who aren't in the "in-group". It has nothing to do with insulting frats, just that particular language which is "frat-ish". Does this matter in personal open-source projects? Not really, forking is a thing. When working with others / at a job, sure.

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Thisplacesucks1 9y ago
You sound like a loser
throwasehasdwi 9y ago
> seen as off-putting towards non-bro people (specifically, women) who aren't in the "in-group" Have you talked to anyone in a sorority? Its a fraternity for females and they share the same speech quirks. >. It has nothing to do with insulting frats, just that particular language which is "frat-ish". That's nice, do you also take offense to things like ebonics because they seem "black-ish"? I think you're being unintentionally insensitive because you're blind to your own prejudice
- CrystalLangUser 9y ago
  I don't disagree with you, I'm just stating why people make those statements. I would go even further than just frats/sorities, that type language isn't uncommon with college aged people. I'm not sure what you mean by your last statement. All I was saying is that I'm not trying to insult frats, it's just this language is associated with frats and its how people describe it. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, different groups will always have dialectical quirks like that.
nathan_f77 9y ago
I don't think there's an "in-group" of frat-bro programmers who actually talk like this in real life. Everyone I've met has just been doing it as a joke. At least, this seems very common in the Ruby/Rails community. There's a whole ton of weird gem names, and people just being silly in general [1]. And it's not a recent [2] thing [3], by any means. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbda1PpQmAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbda1PpQmAk [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowsay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowsay [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Text_Coffee_Pot_Control_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Text_Coffee_Pot_Control_... (P.S. TIL about `$ fortune | cowsay -f head-in`. Hahaha I hadn't seen that before.)
- CrystalLangUser 9y ago
  I don't think it's an IRL issue really either. Recently there was that uber article. But in general I don't really see it or it's usually exaggerated. People have been making jokes since the beginning of time.

debaserab2 9y ago

Sure, put whatever you want in your README's. I don't care if that's the impression you want your projects to have. You're not offending me, I just have to hold my nose when someone feels the need to do the brogrammer speak thing. It's in the same category as reddit's "the narwahl bacons at midnight" crap that was all over that site years ago to me. I just find it nauseating.