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As much as I like Firefox. It is now on a cross road. For debugging development purposes I am keeping a version now for older dev plugins that never got a prop

by frik 10y ago

As much as I like Firefox. It is now on a cross road. For debugging development purposes I am keeping a version now for older dev plugins that never got a proper replacement, and aren't compatible with the newer API and newer will be (because the API is so much less powerful, good for noobs / bad for power user). And I can't wait until Servo gets more stable and feature complete. I am thinking about a Vivaldi browser like HTML5 based UI based on Servo web engine, instead of blink - that would be the ideal next-gen Firefox reboot! (Firefox/Firebird/forgotthename was initially a leaner fork of the "bloated" MozillaSuite, in the meantime Firefox got so much more bloated than the still maintained MozillaSuite (now called SeaMonkey, based on recent gecko engine)).

interfixus 10y ago
My Pale Moon (Linux) clocks in at around 200Mb less than latest Firefox. It's faster, too. And runs the addons I want it to run. Not going back.
- hsivonen 10y ago
  How well is Pale Moon patching disclosed Firefox vulnerabilities?
  - interfixus 10y ago
    Probably not as well as a whole, large, dedicated corporation-like setup a la Mozilla. On the other hand, it's not moving absurdly fast and breaking things as a matter of policy like recent Firefox is. With sensible browsing habits and a very conservative use of js, I'm confident enough, day to day.
  - BuuQu9hu 10y ago
    I expect very well. The devs are VERY security focused if you spend time reading their changelogs.
hackuser 10y ago
> I can't wait until Servo gets more stable and feature complete Parts of Servo are being migrated to Firefox. IIRC, Quantum Compositor, mentioned in the blog post, is one of them - you can start using it today! http://jensimmons.com/post/jan-4-2017/replacing-jet-engine-while-still-flying http://jensimmons.com/post/jan-4-2017/replacing-jet-engine-w...
- mccr8 10y ago
  Quantum Compositor is just a separate process for GPU stuff. It isn't ported from Servo.
  - hackuser 10y ago
    It's the same name as the Servo porting project. I could see that creating the separate process is a first step and involves no Servo code as of yet, but how do you know either way?
    - dblohm7 10y ago
      mccr8 is a Mozilla engineer.
  - BuuQu9hu 10y ago
    It's literally ported from Servo. > The goal of the Quantum Render project is to take the WebRender compositor in Servo and embed it in Firefox https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/Quantum_Render https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/Quantum_Render
    - dblohm7 10y ago
      That's Quantum Render, not Quantum Compositor.
      - hackuser 10y ago
        The meaning of "Quantum" is a bit confusing. I thought it was only Servo ports, but after I read your post I looked around and found this. I guess it's any improvement to Gecko? "Quantum has a number of components, including several adopted from the Servo project." https://medium.com/mozilla-tech/a-quantum-leap-for-the-web-a3b7174b3c12 https://medium.com/mozilla-tech/a-quantum-leap-for-the-web-a...

by frik 10y ago

interfixus 10y ago

My Pale Moon (Linux) clocks in at around 200Mb less than latest Firefox. It's faster, too. And runs the addons I want it to run. Not going back.

hsivonen 10y ago
How well is Pale Moon patching disclosed Firefox vulnerabilities?
- interfixus 10y ago
  Probably not as well as a whole, large, dedicated corporation-like setup a la Mozilla. On the other hand, it's not moving absurdly fast and breaking things as a matter of policy like recent Firefox is. With sensible browsing habits and a very conservative use of js, I'm confident enough, day to day.
- BuuQu9hu 10y ago
  I expect very well. The devs are VERY security focused if you spend time reading their changelogs.

hackuser 10y ago

> I can't wait until Servo gets more stable and feature complete Parts of Servo are being migrated to Firefox. IIRC, Quantum Compositor, mentioned in the blog post, is one of them - you can start using it today! http://jensimmons.com/post/jan-4-2017/replacing-jet-engine-while-still-flying http://jensimmons.com/post/jan-4-2017/replacing-jet-engine-w...

mccr8 10y ago
Quantum Compositor is just a separate process for GPU stuff. It isn't ported from Servo.
- hackuser 10y ago
  It's the same name as the Servo porting project. I could see that creating the separate process is a first step and involves no Servo code as of yet, but how do you know either way?
  - dblohm7 10y ago
    mccr8 is a Mozilla engineer.
- BuuQu9hu 10y ago
  It's literally ported from Servo. > The goal of the Quantum Render project is to take the WebRender compositor in Servo and embed it in Firefox https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/Quantum_Render https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/Quantum_Render
  - dblohm7 10y ago
    That's Quantum Render, not Quantum Compositor.
    - hackuser 10y ago
      The meaning of "Quantum" is a bit confusing. I thought it was only Servo ports, but after I read your post I looked around and found this. I guess it's any improvement to Gecko? "Quantum has a number of components, including several adopted from the Servo project." https://medium.com/mozilla-tech/a-quantum-leap-for-the-web-a3b7174b3c12 https://medium.com/mozilla-tech/a-quantum-leap-for-the-web-a...