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So is it just the stigma that prevents people from getting 100K a year? I mean if it's as easy as it sounds in your comment, there should be loads of people sig
by MichaelGG 10y ago
So is it just the stigma that prevents people from getting 100K a year? I mean if it's as easy as it sounds in your comment, there should be loads of people signing up. And I'm guessing you don't end up with 80K+ in student loans?
- wcummings 10y agoNo one said it was easy. All the trades mentioned are hard work.
- MichaelGG 10y agoEasy as in there's probably a lot of people that can handle it, if they decide to stick with it. Whereas becoming, say, an elite spy or soldier has harder requirements that most people won't meet. Or do a lot of people wash out of the trades?
- dorgo 10y agoAs a programmer in Germany I don't even get half of that. Where can I sign?
- sgift 10y agoDepending on the region and your experience you may consider asking for a raise or changing your job. You are probably (seriously) underpaid.
- posguy 10y agoPay in Germany is generally low. Where someone in Seattle would earn $120k to $140k easily, the same person in Germany may net only $40k to $50k. Housing and especially food & drink are much cheaper than the US though, $12 beers aren't anywhere near as common.
- sgift 10y agoI'm from Germany, so yeah, you are right, but if he makes less than half of the numbers above (80k-100k) he is still underpaid.
- AstralStorm 10y agoYou mean paid decent Polish wages, right?
- posguy 10y agoDefinitely, I think its BS that there are massive pay disparities between the US & Germany, when I've had friends visit from Germany I'm impressed with their programing & english skills, and also shocked with the low pay in Germany. The English skills that my German friends have are surprisingly good, and they could easily work with Americans on the same project with similar levels of productivity.
- kurthr 10y agoWow! where is that? It's not even that expensive in the Bay Area... You can go to a dance club and pay $20 for a cocktail, but a $12 beer at a bar? Even La Fin du Monde from Unibroue is $8 on draft at the Toronado on Haight... if you're into that kind of thing.
- posguy 10y agoMove to the US or get a job working on a project remotely for a US based company. Programmers in major US cities can earn $100k a year easily with no experience and just a degree. That being said, people I know in Turkey were wholly unwilling to go to the US to work, they'd rather wait 2 or 3 years for their company to send them to work in Europe due to the political climate and laws in the US. That was under Obama tho, I'd be surprised if it hadn't degraded since then.
- kamaal 10y ago>>So is it just the stigma that prevents people from getting 100K a year? There are a plenty of things that play into decisions like these: 1. 100K/year doesn't necessarily mean you get some fixed income every month. Not everyone enjoys that kind of a lifestyle. 2. Feeling of doing a lesser intellectually involving work. 3. Perennial threat of facing impending dilution in wages, as you are working in a area where people have a lower barrier to entry. 4. Other social respect problems. You likely won't get as much attention in your circles as some one is who working at Google. Many other things... By and large you will still be better off with a job that pays you a fixed income every month.