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Suing companies for improving your products is not a great idea.

by perseusprime11 10y ago

Etheryte 10y ago
How would providing third parties with the information on what I'm listening to improve the headphones?
- perseusprime11 10y ago
  They are probably just tracking the quality of sound through the signals. Don't you think?
  - falcolas 10y ago
    What makes you believe this? Why would they not also send through names and fingerprints of played music so they can use those tracks to "improve compression over bluetooth for the things people are actually listening to"? I could see quite a few engineers thinking this is perfectly acceptable, without considering the repercussions. And this doesn't even account for the "third party SDKs, bound by privacy policies not covered in this document".
  - castis 10y ago
    Don't you think? Nobody that read the article or the complaint itself thinks that. https://www.scribd.com/document/345620278/Bose-Privacy-Complaint https://www.scribd.com/document/345620278/Bose-Privacy-Compl... (i) collect and record the titles of the music and audio files its customers choose to play through their Bose wireless products and (ii) transmit such data along with other personal identifiers to third-parties—including a data miner—without its customers’ knowledge or consent.
    - perseusprime11 10y ago
      Got it. I thought it was routine telemetries data from other comments.
      - Etheryte 10y ago
        Wouldn't it be a good idea to actually read the article before commenting on it?
        _jal 10y ago
        Who needs relevant facts when it would just distract from this perfectly good preconceived opinion I have right here?
    - krrrh 10y ago
      > and audio files This right here. Music titles are bad enough, but titles and sources of podcasts and videos played through the headphones should be enough to upset even the most naive consumers. This amounts to a slice of your browsing history as it relates to audio and video content.
  - ionised 10y ago
    Naive
_jal 10y ago
...Whereas underhandedly surveilling people who are naive enough to buy a product from you and then profiting from the fruits of one's panty-sniffing is a brilliant one?
- russdpale 10y ago
  That completely depends upon the fine that is imposed, if any at all..
  - _jal 10y ago
    Not completely. I suspect the value Bose attaches to their brand name exceeds zero.
pjc50 10y ago
Suing companies that are making your product worse is a great idea.

Suing companies for improving your products is not a great idea.

Etheryte 10y ago

How would providing third parties with the information on what I'm listening to improve the headphones?

perseusprime11 10y ago
They are probably just tracking the quality of sound through the signals. Don't you think?
- falcolas 10y ago
  What makes you believe this? Why would they not also send through names and fingerprints of played music so they can use those tracks to "improve compression over bluetooth for the things people are actually listening to"? I could see quite a few engineers thinking this is perfectly acceptable, without considering the repercussions. And this doesn't even account for the "third party SDKs, bound by privacy policies not covered in this document".
- castis 10y ago
  Don't you think? Nobody that read the article or the complaint itself thinks that. https://www.scribd.com/document/345620278/Bose-Privacy-Complaint https://www.scribd.com/document/345620278/Bose-Privacy-Compl... (i) collect and record the titles of the music and audio files its customers choose to play through their Bose wireless products and (ii) transmit such data along with other personal identifiers to third-parties—including a data miner—without its customers’ knowledge or consent.
  - perseusprime11 10y ago
    Got it. I thought it was routine telemetries data from other comments.
    - Etheryte 10y ago
      Wouldn't it be a good idea to actually read the article before commenting on it?
      - _jal 10y ago
        Who needs relevant facts when it would just distract from this perfectly good preconceived opinion I have right here?
  - krrrh 10y ago
    > and audio files This right here. Music titles are bad enough, but titles and sources of podcasts and videos played through the headphones should be enough to upset even the most naive consumers. This amounts to a slice of your browsing history as it relates to audio and video content.
- ionised 10y ago
  Naive

_jal 10y ago

...Whereas underhandedly surveilling people who are naive enough to buy a product from you and then profiting from the fruits of one's panty-sniffing is a brilliant one?

russdpale 10y ago
That completely depends upon the fine that is imposed, if any at all..
- _jal 10y ago
  Not completely. I suspect the value Bose attaches to their brand name exceeds zero.

pjc50 10y ago

Suing companies that are making your product worse is a great idea.