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Apple has always behaved this way. The only reasons that they got away with it was a combination of cultist loyalty and being the underdog. Apple has always bee

Apple has always behaved this way. The only reasons that they got away with it was a combination of cultist loyalty and being the underdog. Apple has always been considerably more evil than Microsoft.

orangecat 16y ago
Apple has always behaved this way. Not before the iPhone. There were never any restrictions on what developers could do with Macs, and OS X is very hacker-friendly.
- jrockway 16y ago
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  - orangecat 16y ago
    Good point. That was to placate the RIAA with iTunes, so I'd say that they started to go downhill with the focus on closed devices; first iPods, then iPhones to a much greater extent.
- Tamerlin 16y ago
  That depends on how narrowly you interpret "this way" in reality. Apple has a LONG history of shooting customers in the back: -- oh, your brand new monitor isn't compatible with your brand new computer -- that you just purchased from an Apple store... to fix this, buy a new monitor -- You want to use your expensive ADB printer on your new mac with USB? Buy a new printer. -- Use Carbon to develop 64-bit apps. We decided not to support 64-bit with Carbon, use Cocoa instead. (I may have the library names backward, but this is why Photoshop CS4 wasn't available in 64-bit on the mac) -- So you're a Logic/Shake user with Windows and want to upgrade to the latest version? Tough. Buy a mac. We know it's slower, but if you want to continue using the software you licensed from the company we just bought, buy a mac. (It was fairly obvious that the rationale was that given a choice, no one in their right mind would have picked the mac for either of those applications at the time, so Apple had to buy Nothing Real and eMagic and take away the choice in order to force people to buy macs to run Shake and Logic Audio. It was partially successful... most Shake users were using Linux anyway, and they weren't switching. The Logic thing created a lot of new customers for a few companies like Mark of the Unicorn.) -- Your computer is too slow? Doesn't support OpenGL? Buy a mac. Oh wait, you already have a mac. Stop complaining.

orangecat 16y ago

Apple has always behaved this way. Not before the iPhone. There were never any restrictions on what developers could do with Macs, and OS X is very hacker-friendly.

jrockway 16y ago
PT_DENY_ATTACH.
- orangecat 16y ago
  Good point. That was to placate the RIAA with iTunes, so I'd say that they started to go downhill with the focus on closed devices; first iPods, then iPhones to a much greater extent.
Tamerlin 16y ago
That depends on how narrowly you interpret "this way" in reality. Apple has a LONG history of shooting customers in the back: -- oh, your brand new monitor isn't compatible with your brand new computer -- that you just purchased from an Apple store... to fix this, buy a new monitor -- You want to use your expensive ADB printer on your new mac with USB? Buy a new printer. -- Use Carbon to develop 64-bit apps. We decided not to support 64-bit with Carbon, use Cocoa instead. (I may have the library names backward, but this is why Photoshop CS4 wasn't available in 64-bit on the mac) -- So you're a Logic/Shake user with Windows and want to upgrade to the latest version? Tough. Buy a mac. We know it's slower, but if you want to continue using the software you licensed from the company we just bought, buy a mac. (It was fairly obvious that the rationale was that given a choice, no one in their right mind would have picked the mac for either of those applications at the time, so Apple had to buy Nothing Real and eMagic and take away the choice in order to force people to buy macs to run Shake and Logic Audio. It was partially successful... most Shake users were using Linux anyway, and they weren't switching. The Logic thing created a lot of new customers for a few companies like Mark of the Unicorn.) -- Your computer is too slow? Doesn't support OpenGL? Buy a mac. Oh wait, you already have a mac. Stop complaining.