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> Most British subjects would probably want their police to be subject to the law, the same as all other subjects I'm now 38 years old and have seen little evi

> Most British subjects would probably want their police to be subject to the law, the same as all other subjects I'm now 38 years old and have seen little evidence to support your statement, either in the UK or elsewhere. Most people seem _totally_ okay with members of their ruling class being drone-murdering, tax-thieving, law-breaking, crotch-grabbing assholes.

mmjaa 10y ago
You forgot: pedophiles.
- duncan_bayne 10y ago
  Oh, right - although one could argue that's a subclass of crotch-grabbers.
  - mmjaa 10y ago
    Yeah, but I think its a little more serious than Trumps' crotch-grabbing sexism, when such a significant swathe of UK politicians is embroiled in child-sex scandals, that it becomes a frickin' National Security issue to prosecute them. If only the subjects of the UK had a spine, as a people, and the willingness to confront the dire evil that has usurped their political infrastructure .. alas, they don't. A nation of cowards, really.
    - noir_lord 10y ago
      > A nation of cowards, really. A nation of sheep perhaps but not a nation of cowards.
      - mmjaa 10y ago
        Until the people of the UK stand up and do something about the criminal factions that have usurped their government, I remain of the view that it is really a very cowardly society. There is simply no other excuse for the inaction and disregard for these heinous crimes. Not to mention a significant portion of the society appears to be perfectly aligned with the need for a total surveillance state, due to an endemic national fear that, perhaps, the imperial acts committed in their name will come home to roost..
        noir_lord 10y ago
        > due to an endemic national fear that, perhaps, the imperial acts committed in their name will come home to roost.. Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, most people I know don't know much about what we did during the age of empire and the rest broadly think Empire was a good thing for the countries we conquered.
        mmjaa 10y ago
        I'm not talking about some foregone era of the foggy, distant past. I'm talking about here and now. But you're right, nobody knows about that, either.
    - duncan_bayne 10y ago
      Do you think the UK has more of a problem in this regard than the US? I'm unsure whether it's more prevalent in the upper echelons of British society than in America, or whether it's less well hidden.
      - mmjaa 10y ago
        I think both nations have been equally usurped by a criminal element, for which this situation acts as leverage and coverup. Neither nation seems to be immune to this dire influence, alas.
ethics_gradient 10y ago
It's not that they don't care, it's that they're conditioned to think it's too hopeless and complicated. The common people have the power, they only need to understand they do.

mmjaa 10y ago

You forgot: pedophiles.

duncan_bayne 10y ago
Oh, right - although one could argue that's a subclass of crotch-grabbers.
- mmjaa 10y ago
  Yeah, but I think its a little more serious than Trumps' crotch-grabbing sexism, when such a significant swathe of UK politicians is embroiled in child-sex scandals, that it becomes a frickin' National Security issue to prosecute them. If only the subjects of the UK had a spine, as a people, and the willingness to confront the dire evil that has usurped their political infrastructure .. alas, they don't. A nation of cowards, really.
  - noir_lord 10y ago
    > A nation of cowards, really. A nation of sheep perhaps but not a nation of cowards.
    - mmjaa 10y ago
      Until the people of the UK stand up and do something about the criminal factions that have usurped their government, I remain of the view that it is really a very cowardly society. There is simply no other excuse for the inaction and disregard for these heinous crimes. Not to mention a significant portion of the society appears to be perfectly aligned with the need for a total surveillance state, due to an endemic national fear that, perhaps, the imperial acts committed in their name will come home to roost..
      - noir_lord 10y ago
        > due to an endemic national fear that, perhaps, the imperial acts committed in their name will come home to roost.. Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, most people I know don't know much about what we did during the age of empire and the rest broadly think Empire was a good thing for the countries we conquered.
        mmjaa 10y ago
        I'm not talking about some foregone era of the foggy, distant past. I'm talking about here and now. But you're right, nobody knows about that, either.
  - duncan_bayne 10y ago
    Do you think the UK has more of a problem in this regard than the US? I'm unsure whether it's more prevalent in the upper echelons of British society than in America, or whether it's less well hidden.
    - mmjaa 10y ago
      I think both nations have been equally usurped by a criminal element, for which this situation acts as leverage and coverup. Neither nation seems to be immune to this dire influence, alas.

ethics_gradient 10y ago

It's not that they don't care, it's that they're conditioned to think it's too hopeless and complicated. The common people have the power, they only need to understand they do.