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People expect their government to protect them from people of other nations in matters of physical and economic security. h1-B workers at Tata etc drive down wa

People expect their government to protect them from people of other nations in matters of physical and economic security. h1-B workers at Tata etc drive down wages. Globally, labor isn't scarce. If there were a true global labor pool, wages in USA would be further depressed. People have no intrinsic right to immigrate into the country of their choice (they do have a right to leave their country if another will take them, however..)

an_cap 10y ago
Whites expect other whites to protect them from people of other colors in matters of physical and economic security. H-1Black workers drive down white wages. Blacks have no intrinsic right to move into the white neighborhood of their choice (they do have the right to leave their ghetto if another will take them, however..)
thewhitetulip 10y ago
This is funny/ridiculous, after all US and the West was busy shoving Globalization down everyone else's throats just few decades ago and now every wants to reverse Globalization. This should be a case study, which I know won't ever happen!
- arjie 10y ago
  It's not going to get a case study because it's been extensively studied already. An easy to understand introduction is to look at the Stolper Samuelson theorem. This isn't a recent development. It precedes the existence of the United States as a nation. Textiles in the U.K., mill workers. It's been done before. Protectionism is often just a straight subsidy from whichever society is being protectionist to the members which are being protected. Or, as people on the Internet are prone to saying: if you can't compete, legislate. If you're somehow losing your job to Infosys, you can't be that good. Real loss for society occurs when a good candidate can't get into the US because Wipro took all the visas.
  - thewhitetulip 10y ago
    I did not understand a word you said, the western nations shoved down globalization by force or threats during the start of 2000 and the very same nations are now "banning visas", I guess now they know how it feels. Divine retribution, the circle would be complete if Scotland would breakway from UK.
    - arjie 10y ago
      I was over summarising because I didn't want to write a long comment. It looks like I did a poor job responding as a result and wrote the sort of comment I can't stand. Anyway, my point was that protectionism and free trade have been fighting a war for centuries. It is not true that this won't be studied. It will and has been. Because it's nothing special and new. This is garden variety protectionism.

an_cap 10y ago

Whites expect other whites to protect them from people of other colors in matters of physical and economic security. H-1Black workers drive down white wages. Blacks have no intrinsic right to move into the white neighborhood of their choice (they do have the right to leave their ghetto if another will take them, however..)

thewhitetulip 10y ago

This is funny/ridiculous, after all US and the West was busy shoving Globalization down everyone else's throats just few decades ago and now every wants to reverse Globalization. This should be a case study, which I know won't ever happen!

arjie 10y ago
It's not going to get a case study because it's been extensively studied already. An easy to understand introduction is to look at the Stolper Samuelson theorem. This isn't a recent development. It precedes the existence of the United States as a nation. Textiles in the U.K., mill workers. It's been done before. Protectionism is often just a straight subsidy from whichever society is being protectionist to the members which are being protected. Or, as people on the Internet are prone to saying: if you can't compete, legislate. If you're somehow losing your job to Infosys, you can't be that good. Real loss for society occurs when a good candidate can't get into the US because Wipro took all the visas.
- thewhitetulip 10y ago
  I did not understand a word you said, the western nations shoved down globalization by force or threats during the start of 2000 and the very same nations are now "banning visas", I guess now they know how it feels. Divine retribution, the circle would be complete if Scotland would breakway from UK.
  - arjie 10y ago
    I was over summarising because I didn't want to write a long comment. It looks like I did a poor job responding as a result and wrote the sort of comment I can't stand. Anyway, my point was that protectionism and free trade have been fighting a war for centuries. It is not true that this won't be studied. It will and has been. Because it's nothing special and new. This is garden variety protectionism.