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I have trouble believing students are paying less tuition because there is a greater demand from international students. If anything, the tuition would be highe

I have trouble believing students are paying less tuition because there is a greater demand from international students. If anything, the tuition would be higher. That international students are more profitable doesn't change the value of the degree or what everyone else is willing to pay for it.

rajathagasthya 9y ago
> If anything, the tuition would be higher. It is higher, but for out-of-state and international students. That's how public universities have been able to offset low in-state tuition and raise more financial aid.
flukus 9y ago
They still need someone to keep the reputation up. The revenue stream has to pass regardless of capability.
wcummings 9y ago
Foreign students pay full tuition, domestic students rarely do. Simple as that. This applies to public and private schools. Universities deliberately recruit international students for this reason. I think parent is right, no international students likely means higher tuition for everyone else. If you're in doubt, ask someone who works in admissions, I expect they'll tell you the same thing.
- johnnyb9 9y ago
  My point is that international students may "subsidize" the university, but in practice this should have very little to do with what the university would charge its students (they are not "subsidizing" the domestic students). Implicit in your assumption is that tuition uses cost-based pricing which I find hard to believe. Admittedly this is all conjecture on my part but I don't find that line of reasoning persuasive.
  - wcummings 9y ago
    Students that pay full freight absolutely subsidize those who don't, and a lot of the people who can afford full tuition are foreign. http://blogs.wgbh.org/on-campus/2014/6/17/international-enrollment/ http://blogs.wgbh.org/on-campus/2014/6/17/international-enro...
consp 9y ago
The recruitment programs for foreign students are way better here (in the Netherlands) with some universities because they get about double from them vs regulars. Though the difference looks even bigger when you take into account that what students pay is not the same as what the University gets. I think this is even worsened by the fact that foreign students pay directly towards the university and become a primary source of revenue and the 'regular' students money is tertiary (state) or secondary (scholarship) which has conditions and delays attached. I guess it is probably the same all over the world.

rajathagasthya 9y ago

> If anything, the tuition would be higher. It is higher, but for out-of-state and international students. That's how public universities have been able to offset low in-state tuition and raise more financial aid.

flukus 9y ago

They still need someone to keep the reputation up. The revenue stream has to pass regardless of capability.

wcummings 9y ago

Foreign students pay full tuition, domestic students rarely do. Simple as that. This applies to public and private schools. Universities deliberately recruit international students for this reason. I think parent is right, no international students likely means higher tuition for everyone else. If you're in doubt, ask someone who works in admissions, I expect they'll tell you the same thing.

johnnyb9 9y ago
My point is that international students may "subsidize" the university, but in practice this should have very little to do with what the university would charge its students (they are not "subsidizing" the domestic students). Implicit in your assumption is that tuition uses cost-based pricing which I find hard to believe. Admittedly this is all conjecture on my part but I don't find that line of reasoning persuasive.
- wcummings 9y ago
  Students that pay full freight absolutely subsidize those who don't, and a lot of the people who can afford full tuition are foreign. http://blogs.wgbh.org/on-campus/2014/6/17/international-enrollment/ http://blogs.wgbh.org/on-campus/2014/6/17/international-enro...

consp 9y ago

The recruitment programs for foreign students are way better here (in the Netherlands) with some universities because they get about double from them vs regulars. Though the difference looks even bigger when you take into account that what students pay is not the same as what the University gets. I think this is even worsened by the fact that foreign students pay directly towards the university and become a primary source of revenue and the 'regular' students money is tertiary (state) or secondary (scholarship) which has conditions and delays attached. I guess it is probably the same all over the world.